Major and minor powers navies
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:46 pm
May be in the future we have to modify the initial neutral and minor powers navies set up for make it more historical. I mean that countries like Romania (that a have a destroyer unit in Baltic sea in CEAW) wouldn´t have to start with such an unit that represent 50 ships or a total displacement of 50.000 tons. As it is explained in this article http://www.worldwar2.ro/organizare/?article=25 Romania had only 4 destroyers at the beginning of the war.
The same could be said for Sweden and Turkey with their respective initial battleships: Sweden had what it was called "coastal battleships" with only 7.000 tons of displacement (light cruisers) and Turkey that had a lonely and obsolete battleship with no more than 15.000 tons.
Spain had lost many ships in the spanish civil war so the navy was not by far as powerful in 1939 as it is represented in CEAW with 2 initial destroyer units. Let´s remember that vanilla CEAW included an initial battleship for Spain that was replaced in GS by 2 destroyers units but for the reasons pointed above this spanish navy set up is fairly excessive. In spanish navy there was only an important ship to mention: Canarias, a cruiser with 13.000 tons of displacement. Nothing to do with the battleships of the major powers navies:
- USSR: Marat class (25.000 tons)
- France: Dunkerque class (36.000 tons)
- UK: King George V class (33.000 tons)
- US: New York class (28.500 tons)
- Italy: Vittorio-Venetto class (44.500 tons)
- Germany: Bismarck class (50.000 tons)
So it can be said that Germany with only the Bismarck battleship with 50.000 tons had the same displacement than the total displacement of the turkish navy.
We are talking of different things...
The same could be said for Sweden and Turkey with their respective initial battleships: Sweden had what it was called "coastal battleships" with only 7.000 tons of displacement (light cruisers) and Turkey that had a lonely and obsolete battleship with no more than 15.000 tons.
Spain had lost many ships in the spanish civil war so the navy was not by far as powerful in 1939 as it is represented in CEAW with 2 initial destroyer units. Let´s remember that vanilla CEAW included an initial battleship for Spain that was replaced in GS by 2 destroyers units but for the reasons pointed above this spanish navy set up is fairly excessive. In spanish navy there was only an important ship to mention: Canarias, a cruiser with 13.000 tons of displacement. Nothing to do with the battleships of the major powers navies:
- USSR: Marat class (25.000 tons)
- France: Dunkerque class (36.000 tons)
- UK: King George V class (33.000 tons)
- US: New York class (28.500 tons)
- Italy: Vittorio-Venetto class (44.500 tons)
- Germany: Bismarck class (50.000 tons)
So it can be said that Germany with only the Bismarck battleship with 50.000 tons had the same displacement than the total displacement of the turkish navy.
We are talking of different things...