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28mm Gaming ranges, scales and table size

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:30 am
by expendablecinc
I am looking at having around 800 points worth of later Russians in 28mm. In order to have the same feel as a 15mm game what size table and points value woudl people play with in practice?

Does anyone increase an MU length to make movement rates adn ranges much like they are in 15mm in comparison to the base size.

I am thinking:
1mu = 1.5 inches

4.5 HF
6 MF/Kn/CAT
7.5 LF/Cv
10.5 LH

range combat
3 javelins/firearm
6 normal
9 extreme

Adding 50% half to the table size woudl then require a 9 by 6 but I am thinking 8 by 5 would be ok if it was 750 points or so.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:49 am
by pyruse
I use 1 MU =30mm for 25mm scale - because I find that using an MU which is a multiple of the base width makes life easier.
For instance, the 2MU 'restricted zone' becomes a base width, which is really easy to see on the table.
I tried 40mm, and found it too big, and I tried 1 inch and found it too small.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:38 am
by pcelella
At the HMGS-E conventions, 25-28mm games are played with 1 MU = 40mm, 800 point armies, on a 5' x 8' table. Everything else is the same as 15mm. In the games that I played, it seems to work just fine.

Peter C
Sword and Sandal Gaming Blog
http://swordandsandalgaming.blogspot.com/

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:44 pm
by Blathergut
Deadtorius and I have been playing the rules in 25mm since they came out. We've simply used them as is, no changes, and have enjoyed every game.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:14 pm
by deadtorius
We run a 600 point game for a small quick game, 800 points is a big game that you can still get done in an afternoon, and a few times a year we do a 1000 point game. The 1000 point game we take to Hot Lead, and Migs which are local gaming conventions.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:07 am
by mbsparta
Blathergut wrote:Deadtorius and I have been playing the rules in 25mm since they came out. We've simply used them as is, no changes, and have enjoyed every game.
This is what we do. It takes a little getting used to, the 1MU being 1 inch with 28mm minis, but the game works very well. I have used 1MU equals 40mm in a couple of tournaments. It is a HUGE change in manuverability and really changes the game play. We play smaller games, 600 or 650 points, and can finish easily in short evening. This weekend we are playing a multi-game mini-campaign using 600 point armies on 8x4 tables. We will start at 10:00 am and finish in the late afternoon. 650 points is the perfect sized game ... 800 point games simply drag on without adding much to the game. All IMHO of course.

Mike B

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:20 am
by Blathergut
It's nice to have more troops/troop types on the table sometimes. Going to 800 gets those extra BGs of troops you normally wouldn't see. But it is a longer game for sure!

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:41 pm
by deadtorius
In my case 650 or 800 points means more cataphracts, which I always like to get on the table. :twisted:
1000 points is most everything I have painted up, but it does look impressive when its all deployed.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:25 am
by expendablecinc
deadtorius wrote:In my case 650 or 800 points means more cataphracts, which I always like to get on the table. :twisted:
1000 points is most everything I have painted up, but it does look impressive when its all deployed.
Yes as primarily I am embarking on 28mm as a modelling excercise I want to be able to field the lithuanians with:

2 heavy artillery
A decent sived gulay gorof (FF)
some peasantry behind it all

3 BG of russian nobles (armoured Cav)
some lithuanian nobles (armourned Cav)
The 4 BG of mandatory Lithuanian Cv/LH
A BG of Teutonic knights.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:51 pm
by deadtorius
You will find that the 28mm games have more visual appeal than the smaller stuff does, happy painting all that stuff.