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impact wheels and support shooting

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:21 am
by paulcummins
Found something new to me last night.

a bg of Xbow in 4:2 formation. I charge in with my lancers. But I cant put in the tiny wheel needed to hit the end of the line to hit a 2:1 formation because

a wheel cannot be made if this would result in less bases being eligible to fight in the impact phase combat

I had alwys thought about this in terms of thefront rank bases, but the rules do seem to say I have to hit the thick bit of the line.

sadly my lancers were slaughterd as they only achieved a single 3 compared to the 5 5/6s from the xbow.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:39 am
by petedalby
Interesting one Paul - but checking the rules it seems you are correct.

Good to see your dice are as good as ever!

And if you're not bringing LBs to Britcon - what are you bringing? :?:

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:53 am
by nikgaukroger
petedalby wrote:Interesting one Paul - but checking the rules it seems you are correct.

Good to see your dice are as good as ever!

And if you're not bringing LBs to Britcon - what are you bringing? :?:
With dice like that will it matter?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:44 pm
by paulcummins
Maybe I should go for a completly poor army - im in no danger of rolling any 6s

Im actually taking Post Latin Conquest Byzantine - on a complete whim last weekend after drinking the best part of 2 bottles of wine.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:16 pm
by dave_r
paulcummins wrote:Maybe I should go for a completly poor army - im in no danger of rolling any 6s

Im actually taking Post Latin Conquest Byzantine - on a complete whim last weekend after drinking the best part of 2 bottles of wine.
Have you bought the cat a crash helmet then?

Incidentally, I got caught over the original point at the club a couple of months ago. I am now well aware of this little tinker...

Re: impact wheels and support shooting

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:10 pm
by hazelbark
paulcummins wrote:
a wheel cannot be made if this would result in less bases being eligible to fight in the impact phase combat
Never thought about that, but cool. Again helps curb gaminess.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:23 pm
by Blathergut
Usually wheels to get an extra base in if possible! :)

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:33 pm
by paulcummins
i was trying to run over the 1 deep section of the line - not really gaminess - hit the thin line of guys with bows rather then the deep bit - wouldnt you try and do the same?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:42 pm
by hazelbark
paulcummins wrote:i was trying to run over the 1 deep section of the line - not really gaminess - hit the thin line of guys with bows rather then the deep bit - wouldnt you try and do the same?
Oh i get it and would have done the same. Don't blame you. But as in reality the troops are probably more evenly distributed than the bases, and the "idea" of the game is more commander in chief, you don't know its the thin past until you roll the dice, I like.

Having loved DBM, I now admit it was too much game and I enjoy FoG more for the parts left behind. I think less gamey bits (always will be some) promotes a better historical general strategy game.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:32 pm
by philqw78
paulcummins wrote:Im actually taking Post Latin Conquest Byzantine
An outstanding army. One of the best lancer armies with good LH and LF support

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:13 am
by paulcummins
but there is no MF - wtf am i going to do

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:34 pm
by Blathergut
hazelbark wrote:Having loved DBM, I now admit it was too much game and I enjoy FoG more for the parts left behind. I think less gamey bits (always will be some) promotes a better historical general strategy game.
Same here. Have enjoyed the FoG games each time! :D

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:08 am
by grahambriggs
paulcummins wrote:Maybe I should go for a completly poor army - im in no danger of rolling any 6s

Im actually taking Post Latin Conquest Byzantine - on a complete whim last weekend after drinking the best part of 2 bottles of wine.
The ideal selection mechanism. Good man.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:47 am
by expendablecinc
paulcummins wrote:i was trying to run over the 1 deep section of the line - not really gaminess - hit the thin line of guys with bows rather then the deep bit - wouldnt you try and do the same?
This happened to me on the weekend. A single line of superior armoured cav in column charged my spartan (average) spearmen.

The closest spearman file was two deep but they wheeled to hit the next file as the rest of my BG was strung out one deep to hover up some LF trying to nip past.

C
C
C
C


_SSSS
_S

They hit me and expanded to thier left so the best I got was a 4 and they got to roll 4s as well with a slight edge (being superior). I couldnt double up as all of my bases were rolling dice.

__CC
__CC
_SSSS
_S

We drew so they broke off.

I then advanced 3 inches, contracting by a file to double up and broke them the next round as they werent one deep to evade.