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RAMPAGE 2010 FULL RESULTS

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:07 pm
by shall
Here are the full 15mm results ... different army for everyone placed in the top 10.
  • Pete Dalby Later Ottoman Turkish 1434AD Portsmouth 79
    Ian Stewart Ordonnance French 1481AD Milton Keynes 70
    Graham Evans Dominate Roman 390AD Pinner 67
    David Fairhurst Inca 1491AD Oxford 63
    Ian Mackay HYW English (cont) 1420AD Central London 60
    Keith Martin Smith Hellenistic Greek 146BC Pinner 58
    Jason Broomer Later Seleucid 165BC Reigate 55
    David Cutner Catalan 1385AD Essex 53
    Lynda Fairhurst Later Swiss 1477AD Oxford 51
    Andy Kitcher Yuan Chinese 1290AD Wycombe Warband 49
    Harrison Pearce Later Ottoman Turkish 1458AD Milton Keynes 48
    Steven Stead Fatimid Egyptian 1073AD Reigate 45
    Jon Akers Latin Greek 1310AD ? 44
    Robert Taylor Santa HN Castillan 1483AD Halifax 43
    Simon LeRay-Mayer Feudal Portuguese 1278AD Central London 42
    Darrell Pearce Bosporan 50AD Milton Keynes 40
    Steve Murton Early Crown of Aragon 1300AD Reigate 39
    Paul Cummins Later Ottoman Turkish 1435AD Wycombe Warband 38
    Roger Greenwood Free Company 1444AD Halifax 37
    David Parish Later Crusader 1167AD Reigate 34
    Steve Tresadern/Dave Johnson Later Serbian 1385AD ? 26
    Wayne Dare Bosporan 109BC Pinner 23
    Steve Hammond Ordonnance French 1472AD ? 22
    Peter Card Early Macedonian Successor 276BC Oxford 12

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:08 pm
by shall
And the 25mm results ....
  • Simon Elliot Dominate Roman 390AD Central London 73
    Byron Emsen Free Company 1450AD Oxford 59
    Gordon Jamieson Palmyran 260BC Central London 58
    Richard Jeffrey-Cook Late Republican Roman 44BC Farnborough 49
    Lance Flint Classical Greek 480BC 480BC Farnborough 38
    Peter Cross Medieval Cypriot 1373AD Central London 20
    Nigel Emsen Med German City Leagues 1489AD Oxford 18
    Simon Hall (Ump) New Kingdom Egyptian 1200BC Reigate 0

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:06 pm
by footslogger
shall wrote:And the 25mm results ....
  • Simon Elliot Dominate Roman 390AD Central London 73
    Byron Emsen Free Company 1450AD Oxford 59
    Gordon Jamieson Palmyran 260BC Central London 58
    Richard Jeffrey-Cook Late Republican Roman 44BC Farnborough 49
    Lance Flint Classical Greek 480BC 480BC Farnborough 38
    Peter Cross Medieval Cypriot 1373AD Central London 20
    Nigel Emsen Med German City Leagues 1489AD Oxford 18
    Simon Hall (Ump) New Kingdom Egyptian 1200BC Reigate 0
I'm trying to recall what I heard about this. You used a variable number of points (for which your proposal for 2011 is a proposed improvement on the approach)?

And how big were the tables? with 1" MUs?

I'm not optimistic about the NKE, but did you deliberately score yourself down because you were the ump or are they really *that* awful?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:37 pm
by shall
25mm on 9ft x 4 ft tables.

700/800/800/900 point lists each ued once over 4 games - so lotsof uneven games.

NKEs did very well winning all three games they played - with army routs in all 3 cases. Beat a Spartan a Palmyran and a Medieval German City States. Real score was about 63 from the 3 games. Always put 0 for me as filling up the numbers.

They are not bad at all if:

1) you are patient and play the chariots well
2) you use the mobility of the MF to give them a chance

Si

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:52 pm
by footslogger
I found the other thread on it after I posted (doh!). Sounds like you had a lot of fun leading up to it. Impressive wins against matchups none of which would be good for the Egyptians I think. A local has NKE and is in despair. I've not had any good advice to give. I guess the point about painting those striped headdress things as targets may have been premature.

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:08 pm
by shall
AH haven't painted the stripes on yet - that might be the reason they did so well.

Would be happy to engage in a few NKE tips for players if someone starts a thread on the forum and points me at it!

I found them pretty useful, but also very very easy to get in a mess.

Si

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:07 pm
by footslogger
shall wrote:AH haven't painted the stripes on yet - that might be the reason they did so well.

Would be happy to engage in a few NKE tips for players if someone starts a thread on the forum and points me at it!

I found them pretty useful, but also very very easy to get in a mess.

Si
Thanks! Thread started here: viewtopic.php?p=154762#154762

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:11 pm
by petedalby
Did the Rampage results get fed into the rankings Si?

Cheers

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:30 pm
by Robert241167
Pete

Si said the results wouldn't contribute to the rankings as the variable points system could lead someone playing 3 of their 4 games against a larger point army.

Rob

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:28 am
by petedalby
Okay - don't see why that should be a problem though?

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:41 am
by petedalby
And this from the Rampage site:
Where possible players may not play against fellow club/Team players in the first 1st round, nor players whom they have played in earlier rounds, These event counts towards the BHGS National Rankings
:?

We all entered knowing that it was variable points - no reason for it not to count? And yes - I have a vested interest! 8)

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:50 am
by nikgaukroger
petedalby wrote:And this from the Rampage site:
Where possible players may not play against fellow club/Team players in the first 1st round, nor players whom they have played in earlier rounds, These event counts towards the BHGS National Rankings

You know, I don't think the BHGS was ever asked about whether the comp should or should not count in the rankings :shock: "Non standard" formats are not usually included in the rankings.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:24 am
by shall
I will talk to them about this. It wasn't my plan and the point from the Rampage site was a legacy. However I think we could certainly use all even pointed games of which there are around half. Takes a bit more work.

Si

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:32 am
by philqw78
But Si, the BHGS ranknings are about placing in the comp, not individual games.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:48 pm
by petedalby
Nice trunk Phil!

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:15 pm
by philqw78
petedalby wrote:Nice trunk Phil!
You knows you want it.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:38 pm
by shall
I have passed the scores across to the ranking team.

Hadn't realised it was on placings and as far as I am concerned that makes it useable. Have been more waryon the ELO system due to the points imbalances in individual games.

Si

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:40 pm
by Robert241167
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!

Can you put me down as anonymous? :evil:

Rob

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:28 am
by paulcummins
can I second that 'Noooooooooooooo'


:)

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:07 am
by shall
Well lots of points available at Britcon

Si