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Ottoman Turks at 800 pts

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:41 pm
by lonehorseman
hey there.

Couple quick questions about Ottomans.

I made a list which I tested today (and it is difficult here in RSA to even find an opponent which is why I bug u guys so much ;) ):

1xIC
2xTC
1xSerb Ally TC

2x4 Cv/Armoured/Superior/Undrilled/Bow/Sword (Timariots)
2x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow (Akinjis)
2x4 LH/Unprotected/Superior/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen (Delis)
2x6 LF/Unprotected/Poor/Undrilled/Bow (Azabs)
1x4 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Firearm (Azabs)
1x4 LF/Unprotected/Superior/Drilled/Firearm (Jannisary)
2x8 MF/Protected/Superior/Drilled/Bow/Swordsmen (Jannisary)
1x4 Kn/Heavily Armoured/Superior/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen (Serbian Nobles-Ally)

799AP PBI: +4 BG Count: 13

How is this? Does anyone have examples of any lists doing well in FoG Tournaments (We have'nt really got any)?

Cheers

Duane

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:06 pm
by philqw78
Although I am not sure of his order of battle Pete Dalby won the 2009 World FoG and the smaller FoG competition at Britcon. I am more sure of one of these than the other :)

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:58 pm
by madaxeman
http://www.madaxeman.com/wiki2/tiki-ind ... an+Turkish has one of Petes lists, plus a 900AP doubles list which also did well.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:33 am
by ottomanmjm
I used to run Ottomans with Serbs but I recently tried a more traditional version. I used the following list when I came 2nd at a recent tournament (themed to 1000-1500AD)

4xTC

1x2 Cv/Armoured/Elite/Drilled/Bow/Sword (Qapu Khalqi)
1x4 Cv/Armoured/Superior/Drilled/Bow/Sword (Qapu Khalqi)
2x4 Cv/Protected/Superior/Undrilled/Bow/Sword (Timariots)
1x4 Cv/Protected/Average/Undrilled/Lance/Sword (Kurds)
2x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow (Akinjis)
1x4 LH/Unprotected/Superior/Undrilled/Bow/Swordsmen (Djanbazan)
1x6 MF/Unprotected/Poor/Undrilled/Bow (Azabs)
1x4 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Firearm (Azabs)
1x4 LF/Unprotected/Superior/Drilled/Firearm (Jannisary)
1x8 MF/Protected/Superior/Drilled/Bow/Swordsmen (Jannisary)
1x4 MF/Protected/Superior/Undrilled/Impact Foot/Swordsmen (Iaylars)
1x4 HF/Armoured/Average/Undrilled/Heavy Weapon (Voynuks)
1x8 Mob/Unprotected/Poor/Undrilled/ (Levies)
1x2 Heavy Artilley/Average/Undrilled/Heavy Artillery
6 x Field Fortifications

800AP PBI: +2 BG Count: 16

Regards
Martin

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:31 am
by grahambriggs
Pete's winning list was something like the below. So a bit more cavalry than your version

Azabs, Poor LF, Unprotected, Undrilled, Bow x6
Akinjis, Average, LH, Unprotected, Undrilled, Bow x4
Akinjis, Average, LH, Unprotected, Undrilled, Bow x4
Serbian Nobles, Superior, Knights, Undrilled, HvyArm?, Lance, Sword x4
Azabs, Poor LF, Unprotected, Undrilled, Firearm x4
Janissaries, Superior, LF, Unprotected, Drilled, Firearm x4
Timariots, Sup, Cav, Armd, Undrilled, Bow, Sword x4
Timariots, Sup, Cav, Armd, Undrilled, Bow, Sword x4
Qapu Khalqi, Sup, Cav, Armd, Drilled, Bow, Sword x4
Janissaries, Sup, MF, Prot, Drilled, Bow Sword x8
Janissaries, Sup, MF, Prot, Drilled, Bow Sword x8
Qapu Khalqi, Sup, Cav, Armd, Drilled, Bow, Sword x2
IC , 2 x TC, 1 x Serb Ally TC
1 x Field Defence

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:25 am
by peteratjet
grahambriggs wrote:Pete's winning list was something like the below. So a bit more cavalry than your version
.. ending with ..
1 x Field Defence
Just one? Presumably designed to allow a column of something to deploy 15MU in

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:42 am
by philqw78
Nothing else to spend 3 points on?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:48 am
by dave_r
That was exactly the reason.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:22 pm
by sergiomonteleone
peteratjet wrote:
grahambriggs wrote:Pete's winning list was something like the below. So a bit more cavalry than your version
.. ending with ..
1 x Field Defence
Just one? Presumably designed to allow a column of something to deploy 15MU in
I received the same advice from Pete in the past.
It's great: you can deploy 1 BG of MF jannissery in column with a Sub-commander or 1 BG of Drilled Superior CV where you need.

As I prefer to move first, I save some points not using IC but 3 TC's plus Serbian Ally and so having 2 and not 4 for initiative.
In this way field defence is more helpfull

Sergio

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:20 pm
by petedalby
Nothing else to spend 3 points on?
Spot on

Don't think I ever used it though.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:41 pm
by david53
sergiomonteleone wrote:
Just one? Presumably designed to allow a column of something to deploy 15MU in



and people say LH are wrong :)

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:46 pm
by philqw78
david53 wrote:
sergiomonteleone wrote:Just one? Presumably designed to allow a column of something to deploy 15MU in
and people say LH are wrong
I remember Porter using one come to think of it. Foederate Roman, Roll call, 2008 IIRC.