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Later Serbian 800AP

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:55 pm
by lonehorseman
List I am looking at is

1x FC
3x TC

2x4 Kn/Heavily Armoured/Superior/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
3x6 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
3x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow/Swordsmen
2x4 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
1x6 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
2x6 MF/Protected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
1x6 HF/Armoured/Average/Undrilled/Heavy Weapon

799AP PBI:+2 14BG

Suggestions? I was looking at Eastern European armies with a foot/mounted mix with LH and Kn

Re: Later Serbian 800AP

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:43 pm
by nikgaukroger
lonehorseman wrote:List I am looking at is

1x FC
3x TC

2x4 Kn/Heavily Armoured/Superior/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
3x6 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
3x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow/Swordsmen
2x4 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
1x6 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
2x6 MF/Protected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
1x6 HF/Armoured/Average/Undrilled/Heavy Weapon

799AP PBI:+2 14BG

Suggestions? I was looking at Eastern European armies with a foot/mounted mix with LH and Kn
Doubt the FC is worth it with this set up, and ditto the single HF BG (especially as it is Undrilled). More knights needed IMO, at least 3 BGs or even 4.

I think if you really want some reasonable non-LF foot as well as the Kn and LH you should look at ,say, Later Hungarian.

Re: Later Serbian 800AP

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:28 pm
by david53
nikgaukroger wrote:
lonehorseman wrote:List I am looking at is

1x FC
3x TC

2x4 Kn/Heavily Armoured/Superior/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
3x6 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
3x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow/Swordsmen
2x4 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
1x6 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
2x6 MF/Protected/Average/Undrilled/Bow
1x6 HF/Armoured/Average/Undrilled/Heavy Weapon

799AP PBI:+2 14BG

Suggestions? I was looking at Eastern European armies with a foot/mounted mix with LH and Kn
Doubt the FC is worth it with this set up, and ditto the single HF BG (especially as it is Undrilled). More knights needed IMO, at least 3 BGs or even 4.

I think if you really want some reasonable non-LF foot as well as the Kn and LH you should look at ,say, Later Hungarian.
I went up to scotland with a later Serbian army a couple of months ago for an event, if I remember correclty it was IC 3 x TC 3 x BGs Knights (1 average and drilled) 1 x Wallachian LH BG 4 x LH Bow/Sword 2 LH Lancers and some LF.

Had a look at your list hope you don't mind me suggesting a few things

I would drop the LH down to one BG of 4 bases.

I would drop FC too you should't be doing any flank marchs.

Drop all Light foot to poor and take the bows in 6's

Drop the HF and the MF.

With the points gathered take more Knights.

I'm back up to Scotland next week for the Celtic Cup with a bit of game experience I have moved over to the Latter Hungarians as you can take Heavy foot Armoured Defensive spears drilled its the drilled that works well with the Knights and crossbows and handgunners. Having used both to me the Latter Hungarians just have it cause of the drilled foot.

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:44 pm
by lonehorseman
Ok so reworked the list.

1xIC
3xTC

4x4 Kn/Superior/Heavily Armoured/ Undrilled/ Lancer Swordsmen
2x4 LH/Average/Unprotected/ Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
1x4 LH/Average/Unprotected/ Undrilled/Bow/Swordsmen
1x4 LH/Average/Unprotected/ Undrilled/Bow/Light Spear Swordsmen
4x8 LF/Poor/Unprotected/Undrilled/Bow

12 BGs PBI:+3 797AP

How's this

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:36 pm
by philqw78
Why the IC. You probably want to move first due to lack of light troops. Except the LF who should be hiding at the back unless completely safe. In a place where nothing can shoot them to any effect or catch them. Gives 45 more points to spend on upgrading your LH to more effective LH.

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:07 am
by lonehorseman
Ok so then maybe:

4xTC

4x4Kn/Heavily Armoured/Superior/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
2x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Lancer Swordsmen
2x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow/Light Spear Swordsmen
2x4 LH/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow/Swordsmen
2x6 LF/Unprotected/Average/Undrilled/Bow

12 BG PBI: +1 800AP