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Sifting to avoid friends after a turn
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:10 am
by hammy
phil wrote:
hammy wrote:Can BG turn 90 and then shift upto half a base to avoid friends when it 'advances' afterwards.
Like Pete I am now sure that it can't but I know that I used to play that it could.
We looked this up in the rules Hammy. It can't.
The key to this one is the use of the word advance in both the shift rule and the turn rule.
You can shift half a base to avoid friends if you advance.
When you turn and move it is a turn followed by an advance. The move is still a turn though. Hindsight suggests that a word other than advance would have been better used in the turn and advance section. Possibly turn and make a forward move with no more than one wheel.
The restricted zone rules also use advance in two different ways
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:39 pm
by kevinj
This is covered on Page 45, you cannot shift when Charging, in a Second Move or with a Double Wheel, Expansion, Contraction or Turn.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:03 pm
by hammy
kevinj wrote:This is covered on Page 45, you cannot shift when Charging, in a Second Move or with a Double Wheel, Expansion, Contraction or Turn.
I agree but the wording is turn followed by a simple advance. Now I think it would be far cleared if it was turn followed by a forward move with no more than a single wheel. It is the use of the word advance to mean both an 'advance' and a move towards the enemy.
The same issue is present in the restricted zone rule. You can 'advance' if you are in a restricted zone but you cannot 'contract' and move closer to enemy because that is not an 'advance', it is a contraction.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:13 pm
by kevinj
I agree but the wording is turn followed by a simple advance.
True, but "Turn 90 deg with a SIMPLE
advance before or after" is in the move type "Turns" on P42, and these are excluded by the rule on P45.
The wording on Restricted Areas is different. It refers to the activity of contracting, rather than a Contraction move. As I read that one, you cannot contract whilst in the Restricted Area, but since a Contraction move allows the contraction to be before moving, you could contract outside of the Restricted Area, and then move into it.