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moet wrote:OK guys, I am trying to summarize the impact POA rules (listed on the Impact Combat HTML help page). There are a lot of things that are not clear to me, and I need to understand all the details to get the whole picture.

So let’s begin with four general questions:

1. Are the advantages of mounted troops cumulative?
Example : Do lancers get +1 POA (because they are mounted) or +2 POA (because they are mounted and lancers) when charging against medium foot? It's +2

2. Are the advantages of charging pikemen cumulative?
Example : Do 100% steady pikemen get +1 POA (because they have 50% of their initial strenght) or +2 POA (because they have 50% and 75% of their initial strenght) when charging against medium foot? Again +2
3. Do a battle group get POA when charging against the same type of troops?
Examples : knights against other knights? heavy or scythed chariots against other heavy or scythed chariots? elephants against other elephants? Even if they do they would cancel each other out I believe

4. Lancers don’t get POA when charging against steady pikemen, but in this case do the pikemen get their "defensive" +1 POA when being charged by any units? In other words, do the resulting POA balance of this combat is 0 or +1 for the pikemen ? Yes the pikes do get +1

petergarnett wrote:4. Lancers don’t get POA when charging against steady pikemen, but in this case do the pikemen get their "defensive" +1 POA when being charged by any units? In other words, do the resulting POA balance of this combat is 0 or +1 for the pikemen ? Yes the pikes do get +1

1. Are the advantages of mounted troops cumulative?
Example : Do lancers get +1 POA (because they are mounted) or +2 POA (because they are mounted and lancers) when charging against medium foot?

deadtorius wrote:

1. Are the advantages of mounted troops cumulative?
Example : Do lancers get +1 POA (because they are mounted) or +2 POA (because they are mounted and lancers) when charging against medium foot?

It would be a ++ versus MF in the open. If the MF are in terrain or if they have set portable defences, (stakes) then the lancers would lose the POA for versus MF in the open so it would be a + POA.

deadtorius wrote:Guess I should have been paying more attention to those Quick Reference charts

rbodleyscott wrote:

deadtorius wrote:

1. Are the advantages of mounted troops cumulative?
Example : Do lancers get +1 POA (because they are mounted) or +2 POA (because they are mounted and lancers) when charging against medium foot?

It would be a ++ versus MF in the open. If the MF are in terrain or if they have set portable defences, (stakes) then the lancers would lose the POA for versus MF in the open so it would be a + POA.

Actually no. They would also lose the lancers bonus. And if the MF had portable defences the MF would get +1 for those.

So in terrain without defences, the combat is on 0 net POAs.

With defences (in or out of terrain), it is on net + to the MF.

deadtorius wrote:POA's cancel each other out, so if you go into a combat with a +POA and your opponent gets a +POA they cancel each other and you go in even with no POA's. If you have the same troop types charging each other with the same POA's they will cancel out so no one has a POA.
Each +POA one side gets gives their opponent a - POA. The POA's are used to determine what die roll is needed to score a hit.

moet wrote:

deadtorius wrote:POA's cancel each other out, so if you go into a combat with a +POA and your opponent gets a +POA they cancel each other and you go in even with no POA's. If you have the same troop types charging each other with the same POA's they will cancel out so no one has a POA.
Each +POA one side gets gives their opponent a - POA. The POA's are used to determine what die roll is needed to score a hit.

I understand now that this is true for all BG, except pikemen : pikemen charging other pikemen would fight with a negative POA because of the POA given to the non-charging pikemen. Am I right ?