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Bursting Through

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:49 pm
by spikemesq
Here is a detail over which some have quibbled:

Do routers/evaders "burst through" friends they can normally interpenetrate?

The rules generally describe "bursting through" with respect to friends that they are normally not permitted to interpenetrate (e.g., LH evading/routing through LF) but the rule is not quite a definition.

If a BG of LH evades through LF archers, do the LF drop a cohesion level for being "burst through"? I did not think so, but it is hard to support that ruling apart from the general description of bursting through.

If evading through the LF is not a burst through, can the LH shift/contract to avoid other friendly troops in favor of moving through LF?

Spike

Re: Bursting Through

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:38 pm
by hazelbark
Don't have rules with me. Doesn't the burtst through specifically say, in case you can interpenetrate?

I am not clear how a "rule is not a definition" in this this case could you post the specific rule you are questioning?

Re: Bursting Through

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:03 pm
by spikemesq
hazelbark wrote:Don't have rules with me. Doesn't the burtst through specifically say, in case you can interpenetrate?

I am not clear how a "rule is not a definition" in this this case could you post the specific rule you are questioning?
Don't have my rulebook at hand either.

The "vague" definition is in the beginning of the burst through section of the rules. It opens with [paraphrase] "In certain situations troops may be forced to move through friendly troops that they normally cannot interpenetrate. Troop that burst through others have bad effects, etc. etc." The remaining text details how/when troops burst through others, the cohesion drops, etc.

The specifics, however, never mention permitted interpenetrations and do not address distinctions between routing through different types of troops (e.g., permitted interpenetrations vs. burst through).

Again, I always thought that permitted interpentrations were not burst-throughs, but am not entirely sure of this.

Spike

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:15 pm
by babyshark
There is a line in the bursting through section, I believe (as opposed to the interpenetrating friends section), that specifically states that troops who can normally interpenetrate the friends that they would be bursting through do not count as bursting through.

Marc

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:07 am
by kevinj
The first bullet on P67 states that they Interpenetrate if allowed to do so.

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:11 pm
by spikemesq
Yes, I found it. Thanks.

Spike