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Voluntary Partial Interpenetration Legal?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:52 pm
by pbrandon

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Can, as above LF voluntarily partially intercept a friendly BG, (i.e. they had plenty of move distance to get through) because they want to? In this case the reason they wanted to do so was enemy troops blocked a complete interpenetration.

Paul

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:22 pm
by mbsparta
Voluntary Partial Interpenetration Legal?

................ It's illegal in Ohio (USA)!

Officer Mike

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:01 am
by TERRYFROMSPOKANE
The page 48 bullet that covers partial interpenetrations begins, "If a battle group does not have sufficient move distance to pass fully through another battle group:"

There is no text beginning, "If a battle group has sufficient move distance but chooses not to pass fully through." :)

Terry G.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:36 am
by kevinj
Wouldn't that result in voluntarily ending in an illegal formation?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:30 am
by pbrandon
Those were the reasons I ruled against it at the Challenge. Just curious if there were other views.

Paul

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:20 am
by petedalby
FWIW I think you called it right Paul.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:55 am
by peterrjohnston
Isn't there a bit in the "in all other cases" bullet point about if enemy troops block the interpenetration, it's not allowed?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:34 pm
by petedalby
There is - yes.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:44 pm
by nikgaukroger
kevinj wrote:Wouldn't that result in voluntarily ending in an illegal formation?
On the other hand Paul ruled in favour of a voluntary illegal formation in another case 8)

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:50 pm
by petedalby
I chose to disregard that. 8)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:00 am
by pbrandon
It's all a blur. I can't even remember that one.

Paul

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:07 am
by nikgaukroger
pbrandon wrote:It's all a blur. I can't even remember that one.

Paul

My game against Pete - can you form an (otherwise) illegal formation whilst feeding bases into combat? (a voluntary move)

You ruled this was OK (and I have to say I think it is probably desirable), however, I was unsure that the rules on BG formations actually allow it.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:38 am
by philqw78
Hammy ruled against this at the club on Monday. And looking at the rules it seems the exception to this is when fighting in 2 directions as the BG is already in an illegal formation.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:58 pm
by nikgaukroger
Well I have to say that I don't think the exceptions to the normal BG formation as detailed on page 23 allow you to feed in more bases if it would result in an illegal formation. Fighting in 2 directions is specifically allowed to be an illegal formation by page 23.