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Thureophoroi and other heavy/medium foot.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:58 pm
by Rekila
We have begun to collect the armies for a future campaign based on the second Punic War and 1st Macedonian War. For something I think I read here in the forum (but can’t find now) I get the impression that Thureophoroi were classed As HF/Mf to cope with older interpretations but that the authors think that they were heavy foot more likely. Is that the case? Especially, for the Second Punic War period.
Another possibility is that they form an intermediate category, sometimes (or in some armies) being the main infantry force, in the role of heavy foot; others, specially in armies with more typical heavy foot, like pikemen, in an auxiliary function and so better represented as Medium Foot. In that case I’m thinking in basing them in MF bases but with the same number of figures as Heavy foot to distinguish them of other MF (with lesser figures) . So they can be deployed as heavy or medium Foot depending of the circumstances. The same with other HF/MF, like Gallic. I have also contemplate the possibility of basing them in 6x2.5 bases (28mm) but don’t think that necessary.
Thanks in advance. All opinions will be very welcome

Re: Thureophoroi and other heavy/medium foot.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:42 pm
by nikgaukroger
Rekila wrote:We have begun to collect the armies for a future campaign based on the second Punic War and 1st Macedonian War. For something I think I read here in the forum (but can’t find now) I get the impression that Thureophoroi were classed As HF/Mf to cope with older interpretations but that the authors think that they were heavy foot more likely. Is that the case? Especially, for the Second Punic War period.
Reading this site will explain the thinking behind the HF option - http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sarson ... ates1.html - there are 2 parts.


Another possibility is that they form an intermediate category, sometimes (or in some armies) being the main infantry force, in the role of heavy foot; others, specially in armies with more typical heavy foot, like pikemen, in an auxiliary function and so better represented as Medium Foot. In that case I’m thinking in basing them in MF bases but with the same number of figures as Heavy foot to distinguish them of other MF (with lesser figures) . So they can be deployed as heavy or medium Foot depending of the circumstances. The same with other HF/MF, like Gallic. I have also contemplate the possibility of basing them in 6x2.5 bases (28mm) but don’t think that necessary.
Thanks in advance. All opinions will be very welcome


IMO as long as they aren't going to be confused with other troops your plan is OK.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:01 am
by Rekila
Thanks for the answer. I’m thinking definitively to take the second option, putting them in Mf bases with HF numbers. The same for the Gallic and even others barbarians, like the celtiberians that are not MF/HF to keep visual coherence and reuse them if necessary.

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:38 am
by JadedMantis
I have my Roman Auxilia based on MF bases with HF numbers (still undecided as to which way they should be used) while the Lanciari that are always MF are 3 to a base.
That seems to work fine for me.