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Early Eighty Years War Dutch

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:26 pm
by rbodleyscott
blurb wrote:Contemporary records from France show that German mercenary companies were comprised of up to 40% arquebusiers and we assume that there is no reason that those hired by the Dutch would be any different
And yet the list does not permit this.

Suggest reduce the pike minima to 6 to make 40% arquebus just possible if 10 base BGs are fielded.

The same presumably applies to the French Wars of Religion Catholic and Huguenot lists.

Re: Early Eighty Years War Dutch

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:31 pm
by xavier
rbodleyscott wrote:
blurb wrote:Contemporary records from France show that German mercenary companies were comprised of up to 40% arquebusiers and we assume that there is no reason that those hired by the Dutch would be any different
And yet the list does not permit this.

Suggest reduce the pike minima to 6 to make 40% arquebus just possible if 10 base BGs are fielded.

The same presumably applies to the French Wars of Religion Catholic and Huguenot lists.
And to the non tercio infantry units in the early Imperial Spanish list. We need consitency across those lists...

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:50 am
by Ghaznavid
Personally I'm still in favour of allowing the Landsknecht to use Tercio formations after 1560 as that was the formation they used far as I can tell. If they were underequipped with Arquebuses making them Arquebuse* or Early Tercios with reduced numbers of Arquebusiers bases might be a feasible solution to reflect the lack of enough Arquebusiers.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:41 am
by nikgaukroger
There is no Arquebus*

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:07 am
by rbodleyscott
nikgaukroger wrote:There is no Arquebus*
And even if there was it would have no effect if it functioned like Musket*.

You cannot even have tercios with Musket* because they could shoot to the flanks at full effect.

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:30 am
by Ghaznavid
There are a lot of 'Stars' missing from this gig it seems. ;)
Anyway, give them reduced 'horns' then. Either 4x1 or 2x2 and 2x1, whatever you feel appropriate. I doubt 40% shoot was so little that it kept them from using Tercio formations.