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Vineyards

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:40 pm
by broeders
I've completed my first vineyards for FOG Ancients (but I suppose they can be used for any era). These are for 10mm ancients - on a 10" square board. So simply scale up or down as required.

Full details on how to make them on my blog (http://philbancients.blogspot.com/)

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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:45 am
by kevinj
These look very effective, what I missed, until I read your blog, is that the vines are moveable which makes them even better.

You go into good detail on making the vines in your blog, but I can't see how you do the base. Also, how easy do you find this terrain to transport?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:36 pm
by broeders
kevinj wrote:These look very effective, what I missed, until I read your blog, is that the vines are moveable which makes them even better.

You go into good detail on making the vines in your blog, but I can't see how you do the base. Also, how easy do you find this terrain to transport?
The base is made of 3mm Foamex (compressed foamboard) - there's more on the blog relating to how I made some Broken Ground pieces using the same material. The base is painted brown (using emulsion tester pots!) then I glue the larger stones down. Then I PVA around these to place the 'medium' stones and immediately afterwards lay down a coarse, then fine, grit. This is all then covered in a watered down PVA mix. Once dry I then paint the stones / grit the same brown colour as the base, then drydrush using sucessively lighter colours to create a 'dry' terrain.

I only place the larger stones on the edge of the base - the interior square is kept fairly clear so the vines have a level surface to sit on.

We leave the scenery at the club so transport isn't currently a problem but we move venues in April so I'm looking for a storage and transportation solution. Wilkinsons do cheap plastic storafge containers with 3-4 draws - a couple of them will suffice for all 44 terrain pieces.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:26 am
by kevinj
Thank you for that. I find that transporting terrain to tournaments takes it toll on anything I've put any effort into.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:25 am
by broeders
kevinj wrote:Thank you for that. I find that transporting terrain to tournaments takes it toll on anything I've put any effort into.
We're thinking of putting steel sheets in the bottom of each drawer and magnetic strips on the bottom of each terrain piece (similar to our figures!) to prevent damage during transportation. We've done this with individual trees for 6mm Napoleonics and it worked really well (0 breakages!)

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:21 pm
by pease1
I think for my 15mm figures I might make these and just permanently attach the vines. I think they'll be durable enough to allow troops to be placed on top of them.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:24 pm
by philqw78
pease1 wrote:I think for my 15mm figures I might make these and just permanently attach the vines. I think they'll be durable enough to allow troops to be placed on top of them.
The advantage of the vines not being permanently attached is the base can be used for rough going without them. 2 Terrain pieces for the price of 1.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:28 pm
by pease1
Ahhh. I use felts with various debris (rocks, bark chips, talus, etc) for my rough going. Dual-use is a good idea though.

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:55 pm
by broeders
philqw78 wrote:
pease1 wrote:I think for my 15mm figures I might make these and just permanently attach the vines. I think they'll be durable enough to allow troops to be placed on top of them.
The advantage of the vines not being permanently attached is the base can be used for rough going without them. 2 Terrain pieces for the price of 1.
True.

We used them in the battle tonight (http://philbancients.blogspot.com/2010/ ... rt-iv.html) and they only got entered once - by some evading velites. Just lifted a couple of vines out - then replaced when the troops moved out again. Troops standing on vines might not look right!