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Commagenes

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:54 am
by whitehorses
Have been looking this army over the weekend, looks quite flexible with a hardy mix of Pikes, cataphracts, Horsearchers & Foot archers. 8)

However, their history was a comparitively short one, so there is scant detail on the army on books or detail, barring the Allied troops sent to aid the Roman campaign to crush Judea in 69 AD.

Am unsure whether to use Parthian or Armenian Mounted (Commagene sat right between the two) & Foot archers, & Macedonian Pandapatoi Phlanx for the Pikes.
As for colours? Not a clue :?:

Please advise....

Re: Commagenes

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:57 am
by madaxeman
whitehorses wrote:Have been looking this army over the weekend, looks quite flexible with a hardy mix of Pikes, cataphracts, Horsearchers & Foot archers. 8)

However, their history was a comparitively short one, so there is scant detail on the army on books or detail, barring the Allied troops sent to aid the Roman campaign to crush Judea in 69 AD.

Am unsure whether to use Parthian or Armenian Mounted (Commagene sat right between the two) & Foot archers, & Macedonian Pandapatoi Phlanx for the Pikes.
As for colours? Not a clue :?:

Please advise....
I seriously doubt that many 15mm manufacturers will know much more than you, and any ranges labelled Armenian and Parthian may well be the same figures anyway :wink: I'd go for whatever looks good, and a mix of Greek style phalanx and more exotic eastern infantry would be cool

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:26 pm
by whitehorses
Hmm, it's been a while since I was described as well informed *s*

I'll go shopping at Penarth I think, see what's on offer :)

The interesting thing is the leading account is by Josephus, who mentions the Commagene Cataphracts as Dismounted & using their lances to attack across the walls.
First time I've ever read of Cataphracts as dismounted!

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:14 pm
by philqw78
whitehorses wrote:Hmm, it's been a while since I was described as well informed *s*

I'll go shopping at Penarth I think, see what's on offer :)

The interesting thing is the leading account is by Josephus, who mentions the Commagene Cataphracts as Dismounted & using their lances to attack across the walls.
First time I've ever read of Cataphracts as dismounted!
Tibetans did, and IIRC somebody else, persians(?), did it to attack up a hill

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:49 pm
by madaxeman
philqw78 wrote:
whitehorses wrote:Hmm, it's been a while since I was described as well informed *s*

I'll go shopping at Penarth I think, see what's on offer :)

The interesting thing is the leading account is by Josephus, who mentions the Commagene Cataphracts as Dismounted & using their lances to attack across the walls.
First time I've ever read of Cataphracts as dismounted!
Tibetans did, and IIRC somebody else, persians(?), did it to attack up a hill
Used to happen all the time in the olden days (well, when we played DBM)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:21 am
by ShrubMiK
Cataphracts dismounting to defend a bridge and becoming absolutely invulnerable in the process was, according to Phil Barker, the key incident leading to the writing of the first WRG ruleset.