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Cold Wars 2010 Field of Glory events

Friday themes

The following are the two themes that will run on Friday, March 12 at Cold Wars 2010. Both themes will be played in 15mm; 25mm will only be the Normans, unless a sufficient number of players request otherwise. Players may bring one version of one list: 800 points in 15mm, 650 points in 25mm. 15mm will be played on a 6x4 table; 25mm on an 8x5 table using a 40mm MU. When time is called players are to finish the current phase.

First round: 0900-1300
Second round: 1430-1830
Third round: 1900-2300

Players who can float between themes or scales are asked to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark@yahoo.com.

China theme, from Empires of the Dragon. Up to 577 AD (end of Northern Dynasties list). Any list options or allies are allowed up to the end date; none past it.

Erlitou-Shang Chinese
Early Zhou Chinese
Yayoi Japanese
Early Horse Nomad
Ko Choson Korean
Warring States to Western Han Chinese
Qiang and Di
Three Kingdoms Korean
Eastern Han Chinese
Three Kingdoms, Western Jin, and Southern Dynasties Chinese
Kofun-Nara Japanese (up to 577 AD)
Northern Dynasties Chinese
Western Wei (Western Wei to Early Tang Chinese, up to 577 AD)
Later Horse Nomad (up to 577 AD)

Armored knights theme, 1041 to 1149 AD. Any list options are allowed within the date range, with the exception that no heavily armored knights are allowed under any circumstances.

From Decline & Fall:
Early North African Dynasties

From Wolves From the Sea:
Norman

From Swords & Scimitars:
Early Crusader
Later Crusader
Fatimid Egyptian
Komnenan Byzantine
Cilician Armenian
Syrian States

From Oath of Fealty:
Feudal Catalan and Early Crown of Aragon
Taifa Andalusian
Feudal Navarrese
Feudal Castilian, Leonese or Portuguese
Almoravids (Fanatic Berber only)
Italo-Norman
Feudal French
Imperial German
Feudal German
Communal Italian
Papal Italian
Feudal Scots
Anglo-Norman

Saturday Doubles Open

Saturday March 13 at Cold Wars 2010 will be a Doubles Open. Each team of two players may bring one version of one list from any published Field of Glory army list book, at 1000 points in both scales. Both scales will be played on an 8x5 table; 25m will use a 40mm MU. When time is called players are to finish the current phase.

First round: 0900-1300
Second round: 1430-1830
Third round: 1900-2300

Players who can float between scales are asked to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark@yahoo.com.

Preemption: I already know that my choices for the themes, especially the armored knights theme are flawed; even deeply flawed. Some armies had to be in and some out; I had to exercise my judgment and discretion and this is what I decided upon. I am sorry that you do not like it.



Moving along: there is an opportunity for some enterprising soul to run a FoG tournament on Thursday, March 11. I cannot be there that day, and so will not be running anything. Volunteers are encouraged to contact me at juvenileshark@yahoo.com or by PM on this forum. Potential advantage: it is possible to get free admission to the convention by running an event.

Marc

No Nikephorian Byzantines from Decline and Fall? They have armored Knights.

Paul G.

babyshark wrote:Cold Wars 2010 Field of Glory events

Friday themes

The following are the two themes that will run on Friday, March 12 at Cold Wars 2010. Both themes will be played in 15mm; 25mm will only be the Normans, unless a sufficient number of players request otherwise. Players may bring one version of one list: 800 points in 15mm, 650 points in 25mm. 15mm will be played on a 6x4 table; 25mm on an 8x5 table using a 40mm MU. When time is called players are to finish the current phase.

First round: 0900-1300
Second round: 1430-1830
Third round: 1900-2300

Players who can float between themes or scales are asked to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark@yahoo.com.

China theme, from Empires of the Dragon. Up to 577 AD (end of Northern Dynasties list). Any list options or allies are allowed up to the end date; none past it.

Erlitou-Shang Chinese
Early Zhou Chinese
Yayoi Japanese
Early Horse Nomad
Ko Choson Korean
Warring States to Western Han Chinese
Qiang and Di
Three Kingdoms Korean
Eastern Han Chinese
Three Kingdoms, Western Jin, and Southern Dynasties Chinese
Kofun-Nara Japanese (up to 577 AD)
Northern Dynasties Chinese
Western Wei (Western Wei to Early Tang Chinese, up to 577 AD)
Later Horse Nomad (up to 577 AD)

Armored knights theme, 1041 to 1149 AD. Any list options are allowed within the date range, with the exception that no heavily armored knights are allowed under any circumstances.

From Decline & Fall:
Early North African Dynasties

From Wolves From the Sea:
Norman

From Swords & Scimitars:
Early Crusader
Later Crusader
Fatimid Egyptian
Komnenan Byzantine
Cilician Armenian
Syrian States

From Oath of Fealty:
Feudal Catalan and Early Crown of Aragon
Taifa Andalusian
Feudal Navarrese
Feudal Castilian, Leonese or Portuguese
Almoravids (Fanatic Berber only)
Italo-Norman
Feudal French
Imperial German
Feudal German
Communal Italian
Papal Italian
Feudal Scots
Anglo-Norman

Saturday Doubles Open

Saturday March 13 at Cold Wars 2010 will be a Doubles Open. Each team of two players may bring one version of one list from any published Field of Glory army list book, at 1000 points in both scales. Both scales will be played on an 8x5 table; 25m will use a 40mm MU. When time is called players are to finish the current phase.

First round: 0900-1300
Second round: 1430-1830
Third round: 1900-2300

Players who can float between scales are asked to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark@yahoo.com.

Sadly no Welsh either...Those longbows would love this tournament. But I suspect that is the cleverness of Mr. C's reasoning.

The absence of Welsh is deliberate. The absence of Nikephporians might possibly be an oversight. However, I am unwilling to make changes now that I have settled on the list and published it in multiple places.

Marc

babyshark wrote:The absence of Welsh is deliberate. The absence of Nikephporians might possibly be an oversight. However, I am unwilling to make changes now that I have settled on the list and published it in multiple places.

Marc

While it might pain a lawyer to have to reverse his own precedent, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to publish an update to include the Nikephorians, and some how I doubt anyone is going to be upset that you're allowing a killer list in at the last minute. As it happens, I was thinking about bringing Nikephorians in 25mm but obviously can't at this point unless you're willing to amend the list. I would note that the Nikephorians post 1041 are included in the out of book list for Oath of Fealty.

Chris

Marc,

WIll the Tuareg ally for the Early North Africans be allowed if the book is out in time ?

Cheers

batesmotel wrote:

babyshark wrote:The absence of Welsh is deliberate. The absence of Nikephporians might possibly be an oversight. However, I am unwilling to make changes now that I have settled on the list and published it in multiple places.

Marc

While it might pain a lawyer to have to reverse his own precedent, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to publish an update to include the Nikephorians, and some how I doubt anyone is going to be upset that you're allowing a killer list in at the last minute. As it happens, I was thinking about bringing Nikephorians in 25mm but obviously can't at this point unless you're willing to amend the list. I would note that the Nikephorians post 1041 are included in the out of book list for Oath of Fealty.

Chris

There is no pain at all, depending upon the client and the litigation issues. Trust me.

Scrumpy wrote:Sadly no Welsh either...Those longbows would love this tournament. But I suspect that is the cleverness of Mr. C's reasoning.

Of course, at least half of the contestants would rush out to build Welsh armies for a single event. This happens so often.

Scrumpy wrote:Marc,

WIll the Tuareg ally for the Early North Africans be allowed if the book is out in time ?

Cheers

No Taureg ally.

Marc

Skullzgrinda wrote:

batesmotel wrote: While it might pain a lawyer to have to reverse his own precedent, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to publish an update to include the Nikephorians, and some how I doubt anyone is going to be upset that you're allowing a killer list in at the last minute. As it happens, I was thinking about bringing Nikephorians in 25mm but obviously can't at this point unless you're willing to amend the list. I would note that the Nikephorians post 1041 are included in the out of book list for Oath of Fealty.

Chris

There is no pain at all, depending upon the client and the litigation issues. Trust me.

As a prosecutor I have no clients, and therefore no one that I can bill for the process. It's nothing but pain for me.

Marc

babyshark wrote:

Skullzgrinda wrote:

batesmotel wrote: While it might pain a lawyer to have to reverse his own precedent, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to publish an update to include the Nikephorians, and some how I doubt anyone is going to be upset that you're allowing a killer list in at the last minute. As it happens, I was thinking about bringing Nikephorians in 25mm but obviously can't at this point unless you're willing to amend the list. I would note that the Nikephorians post 1041 are included in the out of book list for Oath of Fealty.

Chris

There is no pain at all, depending upon the client and the litigation issues. Trust me.

As a prosecutor I have no clients, and therefore no one that I can bill for the process. It's nothing but pain for me.

Marc

Been there. Done that. Violins & cet. stipulated.

Out of interest why no Tauregs Mr C. ?

What a minute
I thought the first thing we were supposed to do was
"kill all of the lawyers"!!!!

Legionbuilder wrote:What a minute
I thought the first thing we were supposed to do was
"kill all of the lawyers"!!!!

That option has been explored, and--after serious consideration--it has been determined that it will lead to suboptimal outcomes in all but the least important sets of circumstances. Instead, harm-reduction techniques will be employed, and assets shifted to reflect the new power structure. A substantial improvement in end-state results is expected, but only after a significant lag time is overcome. Further updates will be forthcoming in the near and medium-term future. That is all for now.



Marc

Bump.

Just to keep Cold Wars in the attention of potential players. Come on down, folks.

Marc

babyshark wrote:Just to keep Cold Wars in the attention of potential players. Come on down, folks.

Marc

I'll be there for the Armored Knights theme, Marc. Unfortunately though, I will miss the doubles event.

Peter C

Just double checking. We're playing the 15mm doubles on an 8x5 table, right?

Hepius wrote:Just double checking. We're playing the 15mm doubles on an 8x5 table, right?

Right.

Marc

A while back someone posted a question about terrain for the Doubles at Cold Wars, in particular, on the 8x5 tables we will use. The answer is that the terrain rules will be played the same as for any other tournament, with no changes.

There are two reasons for this. One is that it is sooooo much simpler this way, and that has a real value. The second is that one of the reasons for playing 1000 points on an 8x5 table is that it changes the settled dynamic from 800 point on a 6x4. Struggling to make the terrain proportions the same will undermine that difference.

Marc