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Achaemenid Persian cavalry shields
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:41 pm
by Polkovnik
Did they use them ? I've seen pictures with and without. Does it depend on the date ? I'd like my cavalry to serve as early and late if possible.
If they use them, what shape ? If just bought some on ebay, most of which have round shields. Do any manufacturers make approproiate shields which can be bought separately (in 15mm) ?
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:07 pm
by will05
xyston make a lot of shield packs
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:20 pm
by JayRaider
I don't think Persian Cavalry use shields.
At least , i've never seen any pics of Persian cavalry with shields (either early or later period).
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:28 pm
by Mithridates
The Monvert publication on the Achaemenid Persian Army by Duncan Head argues against shields for both early and late cavalry - though there are comments for later Babylonian colonist cavalry with shields. It is suggested that these are for use dismounted (saying guarding the camp at night). WRG books also come down against shielded cavalry.
Would be interested in any pictorial evidence for shielded cavalry.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:19 am
by Skullzgrinda
Mithridates wrote:Would be interested in any pictorial evidence for shielded cavalry.
It would. It is surprising the Achaemenid cavalry apparently made no use of shield, as the closely related Skythians and Saka certainly did. Fairly extensive use in fact. Nevertheless, I have enver seen any depictions of shielded Persian cavalry in this period.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:41 am
by Skullzgrinda
Here is an essay on the subject of Achaemenid cavalry by Alexander K. Nefedkin of St. Petersburg State University:
http://gladius.revistas.csic.es/index.p ... ewFile/1/1
Within the broader topic, the author specifically considers the question as to whether Persian cavalry were equipped with shields. There is one relief which might indicate shileds, but which the author believes is a stylized depiction of clothing.
There is also a mention that Darius III had his cavalry re-equipped with heavier lances and with shields at Gaugamela - too little and too late a response to the Macedonian war machine, but oh well. This bit is interesting because the fact that mention is made that the cavalry are equipped with shields in response to Macedonian dominance, indicates that they traditionally were not so equipped.
Nefedkin also includes a generous number of period art images. None show shields in use. He is inclined to dismiss the use of shields.
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:39 pm
by danadams01
Mithridates wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:28 pm
The Monvert publication on the Achaemenid Persian Army by Duncan Head argues against shields for both early and late cavalry - though there are comments for later Babylonian colonist cavalry with shields. It is suggested that these are for use dismounted (saying guarding the camp at night). WRG books also come down against shielded cavalry.
Would be interested in any pictorial evidence for shielded cavalry.
xyston make a lot of shield packs