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2" stepping forward vs. charge distance
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:59 pm
by batesmotel
Is the distance that charging troops can step forward, normally up to a maximum of 2 MU, further limited by their maximum move distance? (I've always assumed it was but haven't checked the rules to confirm this and don't have them here.) E.g. If a cavalry BG has already charged 5 MU (in clear terrain) to contact the target of its charge, can files of the BG step forward up to another 2 MU to contact enemy that were originally outside the maximum charge distance? (Assume no VMD is involved.)
Chris
Re: 2" stepping forward vs. charge distance
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:01 pm
by marioslaz
batesmotel wrote:Is the distance that charging troops can step forward, normally up to a maximum of 2 MU, further limited by their maximum move distance? (I've always assumed it was but haven't checked the rules to confirm this and don't have them here.) E.g. If a cavalry BG has already charged 5 MU (in clear terrain) to contact the target of its charge, can files of the BG step forward up to another 2 MU to contact enemy that were originally outside the maximum charge distance? (Assume no VMD is involved.)
Chris
Yes, step forward is additional to normal move distance, and also to eventual variable move distance added. (P55).
Re: 2" stepping forward vs. charge distance
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:00 am
by expendablecinc
marioslaz wrote:batesmotel wrote:Is the distance that charging troops can step forward, normally up to a maximum of 2 MU, further limited by their maximum move distance? (I've always assumed it was but haven't checked the rules to confirm this and don't have them here.) E.g. If a cavalry BG has already charged 5 MU (in clear terrain) to contact the target of its charge, can files of the BG step forward up to another 2 MU to contact enemy that were originally outside the maximum charge distance? (Assume no VMD is involved.)
Chris
Yes, step forward is additional to normal move distance, and also to eventual variable move distance added. (P55).
So it is possible for a cavalry base to move nine inches inthe impact phase with 2 inches variable and a further two inches of step forward.
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:51 am
by deadtorius
To step forward you have to first contact an enemy while charging, then if you can move more bases into contact with the same or different enemy you may step forward more bases into contact. Thing to keep in mind here is that your battle group cant seperate by stepping forwards they must maintain corner to corner contact, and if stepping forward must end in contact with an enemy.
So technically if you charge a unit that evades, and you manage to catch it and for some reason you can also contact another enemy within 2 MU and can keep your battlegroup together, yes you could charge a total of 7 MU but I would think it would be a rare circumstance to actually do it.
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:13 am
by philqw78
deadtorius wrote:To step forward you have to first contact an enemy while charging, then if you can move more bases into contact with the same or different enemy you may step forward more bases into contact. Thing to keep in mind here is that your battle group cant seperate by stepping forwards they must maintain corner to corner contact, and if stepping forward must end in contact with an enemy.
So technically if you charge a unit that evades, and you manage to catch it and for some reason you can also contact another enemy within 2 MU and can keep your battlegroup together, yes you could charge a total of 7 MU but I would think it would be a rare circumstance to actually do it.
But hitting other enemy could allow you to step forwards into those evaders.

So direct your charges and evades after some consideration.
Re: 2" stepping forward vs. charge distance
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:55 am
by marioslaz
expendablecinc wrote:marioslaz wrote:batesmotel wrote:Is the distance that charging troops can step forward, normally up to a maximum of 2 MU, further limited by their maximum move distance? (I've always assumed it was but haven't checked the rules to confirm this and don't have them here.) E.g. If a cavalry BG has already charged 5 MU (in clear terrain) to contact the target of its charge, can files of the BG step forward up to another 2 MU to contact enemy that were originally outside the maximum charge distance? (Assume no VMD is involved.)
Chris
Yes, step forward is additional to normal move distance, and also to eventual variable move distance added. (P55).
So it is possible for a cavalry base to move nine inches inthe impact phase with 2 inches variable and a further two inches of step forward.
Yes, but it's a situation very difficult to create and I never see on table. Anyway, first you must roll a 6 on a VMD, then find someone of appropriate toward whom you can use that 6

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:08 pm
by rbodleyscott
I have had 2 BGs of LF evade from enemy MF.
As a result of the VMD one of the LF BGs was caught.
The enemy BG then stepped forward into the other BG of LF.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:50 am
by deadtorius
Like I said not impossible put likely a pretty rare occurence.
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:20 pm
by Polkovnik
I had A BG of elephants step forward and thus contact evading Cav in a game last week. The Cav evaded and the elephants pursued, rolling a 6 on the VMD and hitting a BG of pike that was emerging from rough terrain. "Great", I thought, as this combat would have been slightly in my favour, as the pike were in the terrain but the elephants weren't. However, one base of the elephants stepped forward into the evading Cav, hitting them in the rear. I didn't frag the cav at impact, so they turned and my elephants were now double overlapped and lost the melee combat, lost a base and dissapeared !