Page 1 of 1
FoGR questions
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:19 pm
by khurasan_miniatures
Hi, I'm very excited about FoGR, and am making some lines in anticipation of it. As usual, I am doing miniature triage, making lines that are not generally available (or lines that don't seem to be represented by the current beliefs about troop appearance, which IMO is pretty much the same thing).
For the mid 17th C. in the British Isles, the one army that seems not to be available is the Irish Catholic confederacy, whose models can be used for many of the types in the Montrose Scots army as well, with some modifications. They defeat the Scots at Benburb using aggressive tercio tactics, but go down in defeat to Cromwell, due largely to those same tactics (the ponderous tercio formation) and perhaps more importantly to a deficit in quality and quantity of horse. These are under way, being sculpted by "clibinarium" the same chap who makes the late romans.
For the Italian wars we have the Swiss, models covering them in their classic renaissance look from about 1505 to 1550 (until they adopted plunderhosen). Mike Broadbent is making these and they are lovely. They should be available by Christmas, if all goes well. Here's a sneak peek at some of the poses -- there ill be 15 altogether, not including a small cannon:
Ok, to the questions!
1) What's the current estimate for the release of FoGR? Just a guess is as good as anything!
2) Is there currently an idea about the order of army book release? What is it? This information is important for those of us who'd like to support the release of the books with new lines.
3) One for the gamers -- which armies would you like to see made that are not now made and why?
4) Is it possible to get a copy of the rules? I'd love to see the general concepts of troop representation and so on, and would not mind playtesting them either!
All the best
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:51 pm
by madcam2us
Excellent!!!!
I've never did DBR but am very excited for FoGR. You doing ranges will mean more $$$ for you, more lead for me.
You may want to do a Ottoman Turk line of pistol mounted cav for the siege of Vienna period. the only line i've seen do them are the Legio Herioca but in only one pose.
As this period is an absolute fresh start from me, sorry to be of such limited help....
But as i've said, expect me to be a customer....
Madcam.
Re: FoGR questions
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:00 am
by puster
khurasan_miniatures wrote:
For the Italian wars we have the Swiss,
Are these 15mm, or 28mm?
I assume the former and hope for the latter, to complement the ranges of Foundry, Assault Group and Eureka.
If in 15, doing some good Swiss to complement Venexia will be good, but its not my size.
khurasan_miniatures wrote:
Ok, to the questions!
3) One for the gamers -- which armies would you like to see made that are not now made and why?
I am focussed on the Italian Wars. I already own a complete set (or two) of Foundry and look forward to the planned ranges of TheAssaultGroup and the Gendarmes by Eureka. More variety will be most welcome, especially if its historical accurate (like the subtile different styles for the German Landknecht and Swiss Reisläufer, especially the crosses).
Most players seem to be keen on the ECW/30YW, though. That leaves several gaps in between, for the Balkan armies, some Arab forces, the Order of St. John, the French civil wars, the Flandern wars or the religious wars in Germany. The period starts with medieval style armies build upon pikeblocks and knights and ends with lines infantry, cavalry and field artillery. For more then a century, the style of warfare changed pretty fast, almost by the decade. The Ottoman army besieging Vienna in 1529 had more differences then similarities to that 150 years later - and its opponents came from different eras.
Back to your question: Personally, I will build myself armies around the early Italian wars in 28mm. If you go there, you will get some of my money.
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:31 am
by Skullzgrinda
My principle interest is in the French Wars of Religion. There are figures available to cobble together an army in 15mm, but these lines seem dated and uninspired TBH. Really lively cossacks would appeal as well.
I expect most buyers will be looking at the Italian Wars, 30 Years War, ECW and the wars of Louis XIV and William III for Europe.
I like your emerging greens.
Re: FoGR questions
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:07 am
by khurasan_miniatures
puster wrote:
Are these 15mm, or 28mm?
I assume the former and hope for the latter, to complement the ranges of Foundry, Assault Group and Eureka.
Sorry puster, they are 15mm. All my historicals are 15mm. There's just so much out there in 28mm, and many new rules are being written primarily for 15s, FoG I think being an obvious example.
More variety will be most welcome, especially if its historical accurate (like the subtile different styles for the German Landknecht and Swiss Reisläufer, especially the crosses).
And the sidearms, yes! Our Swiss have the schweizerdolch and they have slashing in a cross, as opposed to the X slashing that Landsknechts used. It's a testament to Mike's sculpting skills that the cross on the Swiss is quite distinct and accurately rendered. There are none of the hated katzbalgers in our ranks! And there will be some men in "turbans," and ostrich feathered hats, fashions favored by the Reislaufer as opposed to the landsknechts.
Most players seem to be keen on the ECW/30YW, though.
I'm making Irish Catholic Confederates for the ECW period, which will then be expanded to make Montrose Scots. This is in line with my policy of "miniature triage" -- making what is not currently made first, as long as it's at least partly viable on the tabletop.
I quite like the TYW but think most lines for them are too ECW-ish. I am considering making Imperialists for the TYW after the Irish are done, with all the small details of uniform and equipment that gave them a unique appearance circa 1630 or so, such as the common slashed sleeve jacket and the uniquely shaped felt hat. That is a way off, though.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:24 am
by khurasan_miniatures
Skullzgrinda wrote:My principle interest is in the French Wars of Religion.
You can use my Swiss for the FWoR, early period anyway, before the adoption of pluderhosen by the Swiss (late 1560s - early 1570s).
If Mike makes more models for the Renaissance for me, it may well be FWoR, as Venexia makes such nice Italian Wars models, though to be honest the French Italian Wars steamroller with French gendarmes and archers, Swiss pikemen, and French guns, does have a powerful appeal!
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:42 pm
by TWRNZ
I really look forward to seeing figures for Irish Confederates and Montrose's Scots in 15mm. I have considered small armies of both for DBR for some time now. A figure range covering the Irish could easily make this choice easier...