Forming Orb
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:19 am
Can you form orb in a ZOC?
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:11 am
Based on previous discussions, yes.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:33 am
Yes and no. You can assuming you are in certain formation. From what I understand in the FAQ you are not able to contract in a ZOC and so cannot form ORB if this would require you to contract.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:12 am
You can't contract and remain in place. You can contract in a move which leaves you further away. But I doubt you can move into orbBenvartok wrote:Yes and no. You can assuming you are in certain formation. From what I understand in the FAQ you are not able to contract in a ZOC and so cannot form ORB if this would require you to contract.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:19 am
You could always form Orb and then move 1 MU towards the enemy...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:53 am
But you can't contract and advance when you are in the restricted area.dave_r wrote:You could always form Orb and then move 1 MU towards the enemy...
You can 'advance' but that means make a move from the advances section.
Personally I think you should be able to from orb when you are in a restricted area but I am not sure if the exact wording of the rules allows it.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:24 pm
hammy wrote:
But you can't contract and advance when you are in the restricted area.
You can 'advance' but that means make a move from the advances section.
As has been said often this is what we undertsand is the intention, however, the rules can quite legitimately be read in an alternative manner.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:25 pm
The problem was my unit of spear were surrounded on all 4 sides by chariots & foot, so I thought forming orb was the only solution, sadly it appears not.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:15 pm
In a such situation orb is not a solution. A prayer is the only solution possibleScrumpy wrote:The problem was my unit of spear were surrounded on all 4 sides by chariots & foot, so I thought forming orb was the only solution, sadly it appears not.
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:36 pm
or away from them...?dave_r wrote:You could always form Orb and then move 1 MU towards the enemy...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:22 pm
Now that would be OKmadaxeman wrote:or away from them...?dave_r wrote:You could always form Orb and then move 1 MU towards the enemy...
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:26 pm
Quote from Si from thread viewtopic.php?t=11900&start=20
"Rules don't cover that directly, but the principle in mind was a maximum of 2 wide so I would guess all 3 authors would allow it. FWIW I would as clearly in the spirit of the rules. Doubt we really considered a 1 wide 2 deep foramtion. I wouldn't want columns forming orb though so therein lies the trick I suppose.
FWIW if I were to pick a fuller wording to cover this unusual one it would be:
Orb can be formed from a formation 2 bases wide, or 1 base width if only 2 bases deep (and therefore a fighting formation and not a column). A contraction can be included in the move if outside a restricted area.
Not keen to clog up FAQs and rulebooks with too much about orbs.
Si"
Paul
"Rules don't cover that directly, but the principle in mind was a maximum of 2 wide so I would guess all 3 authors would allow it. FWIW I would as clearly in the spirit of the rules. Doubt we really considered a 1 wide 2 deep foramtion. I wouldn't want columns forming orb though so therein lies the trick I suppose.
FWIW if I were to pick a fuller wording to cover this unusual one it would be:
Orb can be formed from a formation 2 bases wide, or 1 base width if only 2 bases deep (and therefore a fighting formation and not a column). A contraction can be included in the move if outside a restricted area.
Not keen to clog up FAQs and rulebooks with too much about orbs.
Si"
Paul