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CORRECTION SUGGESTION FOR ACCURACY, IBERIA

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2026 1:15 pm
by migdeu19
Helo there!!!
I would like to report a major cultural issue in Iberia.

Currently there are basically three cultures, all three depicted with an specific language: Portuguese, Catalan, and 'Ibero-Latin' (which is actually represented as Castilian, a.k.a. Spanish).
There is no problem with the first two, and there should be no problem with the third—but there is.


Castilian/Spanish, despite being the official language of Spain today, was a regional language during the Middle Ages. It was spoken first in Castile, then in Toledo, and later supplanted Astur-Leonese in manny places, eventually expanding to Seville, among other places.

Portuguese was during the Middle Ages, and arguably latter, Galician-Portuguese, a regional language spoken in Galicia/Galiza (as it was known in the Middle Ages) and Portugal, expanding to the south until it reach the Algarves. Both Galiza and Portugal shared a common culture, before and after Portuguese independence.


So, what is the problem? The 'Ibero-Latin' culture in the game—which is de facto Castilian/Spanishwas never the culture of Galiza (represented in-game as Galicia and Trastámara). Galician culture was Galician-Portuguese, just like in Portugal. It was not Castilian at all.

It makes no (geographical) sense, and is historically inaccurate, to have different cultures in Galicia and Portugal while Galicia shares a culture with Burgos. Iberian cultures and languages expanded southward, not east-west.

What solutions would I suggest?


Solution A (Simpler):
Give the Galicia and Trastámara regions, as well as the Galician faction, the Portuguese culture (and modifiers). You could rename the culture to Galician-Portuguese if you see fit.
This change should also apply to armies and fleets. In Galician-Portuguese, these are "frota" and "exército" (which are already named as such for Portugal). They should grant the same units and modifiers.
Additionally, please change 'Ibero-Latin' to Castilian if you are using what is de facto Castilian (a.k.a. Spanish). Castilian/Spanish =/= Ibero-Latin.

Solution A.2 (More Complex)
Since the 'Ibero-Latin' culture group is already de facto split between Portuguese (i.e., Galician-Portuguese) and Castilian (i.e., Spanish), it would be ideal to include the other historical Iberian cultures from the Middle Ages as well: Astur-Leonese and Navarro-Aragonese."
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Solution B (Generalization)
Yes, Galician-Portuguese—later known as 'Galician' in the North and 'Portuguese' in the South—, Astur-Leonese, and Castilian—later known as 'Spanish'—were all three Ibero-Romance languages. However, Ibero-Romance is not, and was never, synonymous with Castilian/Spanish alone, nor was Castilian in any way in general use across the Peninsula at the time.

You could choose to make Portugal part of an Ibero-Romance culture group (along with all the lands occupied by these three cultures). But instead of using Castilian naming—and 21st-century Castilian naming at that—you should use Latin.

Latin was the mother tongue of all three languages. It was used in all official documents until at least the 12th century, and it never truly fell out of use even after Romance languages started being written. Using Latin would be a neutral, straightforward solution.

In the same fashion, perhaps Catalan should be included within the Occitan culture group, and maybe Aragonese should be as well.
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Comments on the images:

I left the Basque region untouched due to the 'weird' partition of that area.

I have represented all the cultures from the 'complex' solution just in case. The important thing is that Galicia and Portugal need to share the same culture—especially by 1054.

Furthermore, I noticed that while doing this, Urgell is classified as 'Ibero-Latin' despite neighboring the Catalan culture. Urgell was Catalan throughout the entire period covered by the game."

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