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Best way to simulate worn-out Hoplites ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:33 pm
by Athos1660
To have worn-out/demoralized Hoplites at the start of the battle of Ephesus (498 BC), should I rather :
1) make a couple of them disrupted from the beginning ? Often a very brief state.
2) use a few units of Shallow Armoured Hoplites, instead of plain Citizen/Armoured Hoplites ? It works well in the Marathon official scenario.
3) slightly reduce the number of men of a few units, from say 480 to around 400-430 ? For this option, is the only solution to create custom units in the Squads file with custom TotalMen ?
4) Use Raw Hoplites ?
5) Is there another solution ?

My goal is to make a bit weaker than plain Hoplites.

(I'm testing of these options, but would be happy to have advices)

Re: Best way to simulate worn-out Hoplites ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:38 pm
by Paul59
Athos1660 wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:33 pm To have worn-out/demoralized Hoplites at the start of the battle of Ephesus (498 BC), should I rather :
1) make a couple of them disrupted from the beginning ? Often a very brief state.
2) use a few units of Shallow Armoured Hoplites, instead of plain Citizen/Armoured Hoplites ? It works well in the Marathon official scenario.
3) slightly reduce the number of men of a few units, from say 480 to around 400-430 ? For this option, is the only solution to create custom units in the Squads file with custom TotalMen ?
4) Use Raw Hoplites ?
5) Is there another solution ?

My goal is to make a bit weaker than plain Hoplites.

(I'm testing of these options, but would be happy to have advices)
Why not make them Raw?

Re: Best way to simulate worn-out Hoplites ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:38 pm
by Athos1660
That's the option I've been thinking just after hitting 'Submit' and added to OP :lol:

Thanks for the quick advice. Will test it right away !!!

Re: Best way to simulate worn-out Hoplites ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2026 2:28 pm
by Athos1660
Paul59 wrote: Why not make them Raw?
Tested. Very nice working basis. During first test, I retreated from battle as Greek.
Thank you very much !

Re: Best way to simulate worn-out Hoplites ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:55 pm
by Athos1660
I won too easily with the Hoplites at the 3rd attempt, after a couple of small tweaks. Balancing scenarios is a hard task ! :)