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Phil Powell has already added his Britcon-winning Italian Ostrogoth list to the FoG Wiki - so you can see the deep thought behind it!

If anyone else wants to add their lists to the relevant pages, please do so ...

http://www.madaxeman.com/wiki2/tiki-ind ... strogothic


(if you are using the Army List Builder excel spreadsheet the easiest way to do this is to insert another column into your spreadsheet at Column A, copy/insert asterisks ( * ) into each cell in the new column A, and the cut and paste all the cells with army data (ie not the headings) into the wiki. It looks a bit odd until you save it, but it looks fine in the saved version)

tim

madaxeman wrote:Phil Powell has already added his Britcon-winning Italian Ostrogoth list to the FoG Wiki - so you can see the deep thought behind it!

tim

So Wily you could pin a tail on it and call it a Coyote

Although I initially expected to end up at the bottom of the canyon people's disbelief of my army and game plan proved a massive advantage

madaxeman wrote:(if you are using the Army List Builder excel spreadsheet the easiest way to do this is to insert another column into your spreadsheet at Column A, copy/insert asterisks ( * ) into each cell in the new column A, and the cut and paste all the cells with army data (ie not the headings) into the wiki. It looks a bit odd until you save it, but it looks fine in the saved version)

I tried it - seems to work OK

In case anyone is interested

Early Picts @ Britcon 2009

CiC IC - - - - - - CinC 1
Troop Commander TC - - - - - - - 1
Troop Commander TC - - - - - - - 1
Saxon Troop Commander TC - - - - - - Ally general 1
- - - - - - - -
1 Archers LF Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow - - - 6
2 Javelinmen LF Unprotected Average Undrilled Javelins Light spear - - 6
3 Cavalry LH Unprotected Average Undrilled Javelins Light spear - - 4
4 Chariots LCh - Superior Undrilled - Light spear - - 4
5 Spearmen 1 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
6 Spearmen 2 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
7 Spearmen 3 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
8 Spearmen 4 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
9 Spearmen 5 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
10 Spearmen 6 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
11 Spearmen 7 MF Unprotected Average Undrilled - Offensive spearmen Spearmen - 8
12 Saxon Javelinmen LF Unprotected Average Undrilled Javelins Light spear - - 4
13 Saxon Nobles HF Protected Superior Undrilled - Impact foot Swordsmen - 4
14 Saxon Women HF Protected Average Undrilled - Impact foot Swordsmen - 8
15 Saxon Nobles HF Protected Superior Undrilled - Impact foot Swordsmen - 4

JimmyThePict wrote:In case anyone is interested

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14 Saxon Women HF Protected Average Undrilled - Impact foot Swordsmen - 8

I'm interested in this troop type

I think the fortified camp thing might have legs. Now that I think about it I can see it being useful in some circumstances that have caused me trouble in the past.

Even just deployed on the baseline (or near the baseline) as a pivot point it could be useful, after all the fortified camp doesn't suffer -1 for being near the board edge. The relative difficulty of getting through it with mounted creates a fair amoutn of uncertainty on an opponent's part in trying to get through and around your flank, especially if you have some troops with missile weapons plinking away at the same time...

ethan wrote:I think the fortified camp thing might have legs. Now that I think about it I can see it being useful in some circumstances that have caused me trouble in the past.

Even just deployed on the baseline (or near the baseline) as a pivot point it could be useful, after all the fortified camp doesn't suffer -1 for being near the board edge. The relative difficulty of getting through it with mounted creates a fair amoutn of uncertainty on an opponent's part in trying to get through and around your flank, especially if you have some troops with missile weapons plinking away at the same time...

Most troops also have the problem of getting stuck on it and charged in the flank or rear. They could move away but none skirmishers would have to CMT and then, again, most troops could only turn to face. So opponents race towards it and then wonder what to do once they get close.

This was one of the early roman player theories of how to use camps IIRC.

Personally I have generally found the CMT to stop looting easy to pass. But needing a 6 to bust in don't recall too many attempts

hazelbark wrote:This was one of the early roman player theories of how to use camps IIRC.

Personally I have generally found the CMT to stop looting easy to pass. But needing a 6 to bust in don't recall too many attempts

Hmph well as my fortified camp fell twice at the first attempt Im strongly of the view a fortified camp is giving your opponent a 24 pt head start

Richard

richardcollins70 wrote:
Hmph well as my fortified camp fell twice at the first attempt Im strongly of the view a fortified camp is giving your opponent a 24 pt head start

Richard

Still managed to win the comp though richard!

richardcollins70 wrote:

hazelbark wrote:This was one of the early roman player theories of how to use camps IIRC.

Personally I have generally found the CMT to stop looting easy to pass. But needing a 6 to bust in don't recall too many attempts

Hmph well as my fortified camp fell twice at the first attempt Im strongly of the view a fortified camp is giving your opponent a 24 pt head start

Richard

It obviously did the job of distracting the enemy whilst you snuck up and hit him with the big brick that is MRR

Norse Irish list from Britcon was:

IC plus 3 TCs ( one a Viking ally)
5 bgs of 6 LF ave Jls, LS
1 BG of 6 LF ave sling
4 BGs of 6 MF ave unpr HW
1 BG of 8 MF sup, unpr, HW
2 BGs of 8 HF, sup, unpr, HW
3 BGs of 8 HF, ave, prot, off spear (Vikings)

Hope this is of interest despite the lack of female units.
John

And here are my almost-made-it-to-the-top War of the Roses Yorkist:

IC + 2 TCs

4 BGs of 8 Town and County Longbowmen Undrilled, protected, poor, longbow, swordsmen
2 BGs of 8 Retinue Longbowmen Drilled, protected, average, longbow, swordsmen
2 BGs of 6 Retinue Longbowmen Drilled, protected, average, longbow, swordsmen
2 BGs of 4 Retinue billmen Drilled, armoured, average, heavy weapon
2 BGs of 4 Retinue billmen Drilled, armoured, superior, heavy weapon
1 BG of 4 Mercenary handgunners Drilled, protected, average, firearm

And don't let anyone tell you poor troops are no good in a competition. My poor longbowmen overall turned out to be very stalwart yeomen indeed and probably routed more enemy BGs than the Retinue archers with their fancy manoeuvering. Based on this experience, next year I will probably use HYW (Britain) with all 52 poor archers. They'll be no stopping me then...

Julian

Robert241167 wrote:2 BGs of 5 Retinue billmen Drilled, armoured, superior, heavy weapon ????

Is that six not five

david53 wrote:

Robert241167 wrote:2 BGs of 5 Retinue billmen Drilled, armoured, superior, heavy weapon ????

Is that six not five

Edited to 4...Thanks.

Julian

Looks like they're happy with you copying Tim.

If I get some time tomorrow I'll paste a few over.

Managed to sneak those in myself.

Here are the Late Serbs that placed 6th,Terrys in 3rd were quite different

IC and 2 TC's
4 x 6 LF bow undrilled poor
3 x 4 LH bow sword average
1 x 4 LH lance sword average
1 x 4 LH light spear sword bow average
4 x 4 KN heavy armoured,lance sword superior
1 x 6 mob

As with Julian my poor foot were the stars,does this mean they are to powerful
David

hi,

i red phil italian ostrogothic army and am interetsted in using it. What command did he use? did he flank march with a TC or FC?

ur fogly