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Yurts
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:06 pm
by Irmin
Other than Baueda does anyone know of any other manufacturer of Yurts?
Also did the Mongols (specifically the ilkhanids) palisade their camps.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:48 am
by Legionbuilder
Yurts are the round tents right
Like Samarians would have used?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:20 am
by Irmin
Legionbuilder wrote:Yurts are the round tents right
Like Samarians would have used?
Yes, what I'm looking for is a yurt on a wagon in 15mm to use for my Khan
Re: Yurts
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:20 am
by tadamson
Irmin wrote:Other than Baueda does anyone know of any other manufacturer of Yurts?
Also did the Mongols (specifically the ilkhanids) palisade their camps.
Some did, we have a record of Qaidu and his troops falling back on their camp and dismounting to fight from behind the palisades. However, peacetime camps are described as 'without walls' by many sources. Given the lack of descriptions of wartime camps we have to guess. My best guess is that it was done occasionally for marching camps and more frequently for semi permanent ones in hostile territory.
nb the felt tent is a ger, the tents and stock lines of the family is the yurt.
Tom..
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:25 am
by kevinj
Irregular Miniatures make one, AS29 in their "Asian" Range.
Kevin
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:01 pm
by Irmin
kevinj wrote:Irregular Miniatures make one, AS29 in their "Asian" Range.
Kevin
The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagon
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:59 pm
by tadamson
Irmin wrote:kevinj wrote:Irregular Miniatures make one, AS29 in their "Asian" Range.
Kevin
The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagon
Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:02 pm
by deadtorius
Would have been worse timing to mention it after he posted pictures of his completed wagon Yurt.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:06 am
by Irmin
tadamson wrote:Irmin wrote:kevinj wrote:Irregular Miniatures make one, AS29 in their "Asian" Range.
Kevin
The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagon
Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
So the writings of Marco Polo, William of Rubruck and Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini all describing ger wagons are incorrect or doctored?
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:41 am
by david53
Irmin wrote:tadamson wrote:Irmin wrote:
The irregular one looks like a piece of cloth thrown over a tripd not a circular ger shape at all. I guess until Claudio completes his work at baueda it may be one of his gers put onto a 25mm wagon
Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
So the writings of Marco Polo, William of Rubruck and Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini all describing ger wagons are incorrect or doctored?
Don't know about the others but take what Marco Polo says with a large pinch of salt he tried to write himself and his family into events that happened decades before he hit the plains.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:39 pm
by Mehrunes
Alain Touller has something like this in his Skythian range.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:44 pm
by thefloppy1
I have a Yurt wagon that I picked up from Eureka. has a nice little flag on top too.
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.ph ... ts_id=4512
No pic, if you want a pic I could do one tonight of my Yurt..
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:55 am
by tadamson
Irmin wrote:tadamson wrote:
Is this a bad time to point out that the concept of a complete assembled ger on a giant wagon is mostly a figment of Victorian imagination.
Dismantling a ger takes 20-30 min, it all packs onto a couple of ox drawn carts. Putting it back up takes about the same.
So the writings of Marco Polo, William of Rubruck and Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini all describing ger wagons are incorrect or doctored?
Rubruck's account
http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/te ... html#yurts is odd, He talks of tents and setting up but he includes the two wheeled cart with a 20 foot axle and 22 oxen.
http://www.archive.org/details/contemporariesof00komr
Carpini says that some tents can't be taken apart and are moved on carts.
Both use 'scena' and 'tentorium' to describe ger.
I have my doubts about Rubruck's giant cart though I can see smaller assembled tents on carts. All the Eastern sources talk of taking down the tents and carrying them on carts.