Slitherine

I foolishly installed Windows 11 last month and ever since then my machine has been locking out a few times every week. It seems to be related to FoG though the the problem looks to be with Windows rather than the game.
Is anybody else having the same problem or know how to deal with it ?

Have you updated the video drivers after you installed W11?

Cheers

Pip

Just checked, it says they are already installed.
I didn't look to do the update, it was all Windows driven - would have hoped that would do everything required.
Am thinking maybe I should revert to Windows 10.

Can you check the dates on your drivers? Better yet - perhaps do the dxdiag dance:

1. click on "START"
2. click "run"
3. type in "dxdiag" and click "OK"
4. check through the tabs and perform all tests
5. click "Save all Information..." and save the text file to a location of your choice

We really only need the information down to where it says
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Sound Capture Devices
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Cheers

Pip

This is what I got, there wasn't an option to perform any tests...

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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/14/2023, 11:04:25
Machine name: DESKTOP-R2HJ1B7
Machine Id: {6AB6921A-FE47-45F8-A53D-C0ED1E3AB456}
Operating System: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 22621) (22621.ni_release.220506-1250)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
System Model: MS-7C96
BIOS: 1.B0 (type: UEFI)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor (12 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16310MB RAM
Page File: 6734MB used, 10599MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.4.7
DxDiag Version: 10.00.22621.0001 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C82&SUBSYS_8C961462&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 12174 MB
Dedicated Memory: 4019 MB
Shared Memory: 8155 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported
Display Topology: Clone
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
Color Primaries: Red(0.000625,0.000322), Green(0.000293,0.000586), Blue(0.000146,0.000058), White Point(0.000305,0.000321)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: 2270W
Monitor Id: AOC2270
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
Advanced Color: Not Supported
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SAMSUNG
Monitor Id: SAM0A7A
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Monitor Capabilities: Unknown
Display Pixel Format: Unknown
Advanced Color: Not Supported
Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmd.inf_amd64_1408eaf9a25ed64f\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmd.inf_amd64_1408eaf9a25ed64f\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmd.inf_amd64_1408eaf9a25ed64f\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmd.inf_amd64_1408eaf9a25ed64f\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 27.21.0014.5751 (English)
Driver Version: 27.21.14.5751
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.7
Hardware Scheduling: DriverSupportState:Stable Enabled:True
Displayable: Not Supported
Graphics Preemption: Pixel
Compute Preemption: Dispatch
Miracast: Not Supported
Detachable GPU: No
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Virtualization: Paravirtualization
Block List: No Blocks
Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:True
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 22/11/2020 01:00:00, 1039376 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5FC2-11CF-A561-98AC1BC2D635}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x1C82
SubSys ID: 0x8C961462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem18.inf:0f066de30a165e8a:Section008:27.21.14.5751:pci\ven_10de&dev_1c82&subsys_8c961462
Rank Of Driver: 00CF0001
Video Accel:
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Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO MaxPlanes: 1
MPO Caps: Not Supported
MPO Stretch: Not Supported
MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported
PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
PanelFitter Stretch: Not Supported

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Sound Devices
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Description: SAMSUNG (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0080&SUBSYS_14628C96&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: N/A
Product ID: N/A
Type: N/A
Driver Name: nvhda64v.sys
Driver Version: 1.3.38.35 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 22/11/2020 01:00:00, 230720 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0897&SUBSYS_14629C96&REV_1005
Manufacturer ID: N/A
Product ID: N/A
Type: N/A
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.0.9240.1 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 23/09/2021 01:00:00, 6525496 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Desktop Microphone (Microsoft LifeCam HD-3000)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 10.0.22621.1992 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 06/07/2023 01:00:00, 282624 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

It looks like your drivers could do with updating, so that would be a good place to start.

Do lockups happen when you are in the game always? Any common factors?

Cheers

Pip

I went through Windows update drivers manually and it said they were all up to date.

The lock ups don't happen in game, they happen after I have closed the game. As far as I can recall I have never had two in a row without playing FoG in between.

I did generate one today by having the FoG menu screen up and going into task manager. Was able to view the internet but when I came back to FoG it was locked. I have done this in the past under Windows 10 and it was OK but not now under Windows 11.

I checked and can reproduce this.
Load up FoG, generate a game and play a turn.
Come back out to the menu.
Load up device manager and do something online.
Return to FoG and the game is screen is locked up.

However if I don't play a turn of FoG then the lock up doesn't happen, so it is the in-game screen that is doing something that Windows 11 can't cope with.
Which confirms my experience that the lockups happen after I have been playing FoG.

Try running in a Window and see if that helps.

Cheers

Pip

Have switched to Windowed and no lockups over the past 3 days, so hopefully that has fixed it.
Thanks for your help.