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Crusades

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:55 pm
by dithyrambos
Hi, I have yet another Game Idea for you guys at Slitherine: The Crusades.

This is a topic that has not been covered very much.

Medieval: Total War had crusades in it, but they were neither the point of the game, nor very well done, either.

Stronghold: Crusader was all about crusades, but lacked a strategic element beyond: "Build up my resources, attack the other guy's castle, and I win".

Crusader Kings is the best crusader game so far, IMHO, but is still lacking. It was more like "Sim Monarch" but with crusades.

If Slitherine could make a crusader game that focused on the different troop types, like Feudal Sergeants, Templar Knights, Hospitallers, Saracens, etc. I think that would do quite well.

There could be different scenarios, such as:

The 1st Crusade - If the player chooses to play as the crusaders, he starts out with no territory, but a good sized army, and has to conquer Antioch, Edessa, Tyre, Jerusalem, and Ascalon to win the scenario.

The Kingdom of Jerusalem - This scenario could have all four states in "Outremer", The Kingdom of Jerusalem, The County of Tripoli, the Principality of Antioch, and the County of Edessa. These four states would be in a "locked" alliance, in the sense that they will never attack each other, and if their relations are high enough with each other, will send supplies to each other. If relations are really high, they might even give military support to each other, provided that they can spare the manpower.

And there are plenty of other possible scenarios, too.

Let me know what you guys think of this.

dithy

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:01 am
by jdm
Thanks for your input. Iain is overseas at the moment, but I will add this to his list :-)

Regards
JDM

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:55 pm
by guineawolf
i am agree with you,Dithyrambos.i have played Stronghold:crusaders,i love those units in it,especially swordsmen(worked for me as legionaires).Hopefully that will come out :D

Good Idea

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:41 am
by rddflag
Now that i think of it no game that i have tried has put together anything good regarding to the crusades

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:45 pm
by ungers_pride
I also agree.

I would like to see an epic turn-based Crusade game with all of Europe and Middle East.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:13 am
by anguille
Knights of Honor has crusades as well and is an amazing game.

http://www.knightsofhonor.com/

I know there was also a RTS game on that subject...i'll check if i can find it.

I do have a very light wargame (TBS) called "The Crusades" which was funny for some time...

Note...i wouldn't mind if Slitherine did something on that subject but i've been playing KoH for 2 years now and i still enjoy it a lot...i'd rather have Legion II, something in America (Maya, Azteques...), China, Japan or something very new like India (never done before :cry: )

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:47 am
by dithyrambos
anguille wrote:Knights of Honor has crusades as well and is an amazing game.

http://www.knightsofhonor.com/

I know there was also a RTS game on that subject...i'll check if i can find it.

I do have a very light wargame (TBS) called "The Crusades" which was funny for some time...

Note...i wouldn't mind if Slitherine did something on that subject but i've been playing KoH for 2 years now and i still enjoy it a lot...i'd rather have Legion II, something in America (Maya, Azteques...), China, Japan or something very new like India (never done before :cry: )
I own KOH and I do love playing it. However, I feel the Crusades were poorly modeled (or did they fix that in the last patch?). However, I love everything else about the game.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:57 am
by duncan
dithyrambos wrote:I own KOH and I do love playing it. However, I feel the Crusades were poorly modeled (or did they fix that in the last patch?). However, I love everything else about the game.
Ditto, except the "tactical" battles, which were a messy Age of empires pastiche with morale thrown in...and the suicidal AI...in fact, I ended up selling the game :oops:

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:23 am
by SPQR
my self, i am a roman. but a good crusade game would be nice :D

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:49 am
by sum1won
duncan wrote:
dithyrambos wrote:I own KOH and I do love playing it. However, I feel the Crusades were poorly modeled (or did they fix that in the last patch?). However, I love everything else about the game.
Ditto, except the "tactical" battles, which were a messy Age of empires pastiche with morale thrown in...and the suicidal AI...in fact, I ended up selling the game :oops:
The AI was pretty bad (continious frontal charges against archers on a hill), but I wouldn't call it AoEish. Flanking, etc, did matter.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:49 am
by SPQR
KOH is that knights of honor and if so is it worth buying the game.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 4:51 pm
by duncan
SPQR wrote:KOH is that knights of honor and if so is it worth buying the game.
KOH is Knights Of Honor, and it's worth buying specially now that you can get it cheaper. But be warned, these are not your good ole RTW real time battles...but the rest of the game is way better than RTW.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:52 pm
by SPQR
so its like a tactics games? or a mmorpg game?