Slitherine

There are many references to Pechenegs using wagons as part of their deployment: I have recorded some instances here from multiple sources:
https://www.militaryhistorywithfog.com/beroia-1121-ad
I think there is a case for some sort of quasi Hussite style wagons for them.

fogman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:00 pm There are many references to Pechenegs using wagons as part of their deployment: I have recorded some instances here from multiple sources:
https://www.militaryhistorywithfog.com/beroia-1121-ad
I think there is a case for some sort of quasi Hussite style wagons for them.

Correct me if I'm wrong - my understanding was that they used their wagons as stationary defensive fortifications for their camp, not so much as mobile battle platforms. Granted, the Hussites themselves mostly used their wagons in a defensive manner. I would think this would fall more under the Field Fortifications category than a moving wagon type unit?

I don't how how mobile they were but I'm not suggesting they were going into battle with the cavalry. But I do not believe they were a last-ditch line of defence. Rather, they were integral to Pecheneg warfare who used them the same way as fairly static defensive infantry, or Hussite wagons, were used, somewhere for the horsemen to rally behind and work with. Many battles with the Byzantines were of a defensive nature that made full use of them; and presently there is no way to show that, as the game works on the assumption that they attacked then vanished into thin air when in trouble. True for raiding parties but a full blown army (people) on the move would not behave that way. I think the way they are portrayed is missing a significant aspect of the way they fight.