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rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:46 am This is a known bug, and should be fixed by the free update that will be released on 16th February.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:46 am This is a known bug, and should be fixed by the free update that will be released on 16th February.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:22 pm I really thought this bug was finally laid to rest. Oh well, I will have to look at it again.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:27 am I am unable to reproduce this bug on my system.

Is your computer fairly old/low spec? Previously the bug was thought to be due to two operations getting performed in the wrong order (because sometimes one had not been fully actioned before the other was actioned, which resulted in the overlay not getting closed. This seemed to be more likely to occur on a slower system). The fix was supposed to allow the overlay to close even if the operations did get actioned in the wrong order.

Do I understand correctly that even when the force selection gets "stuck" like this, hitting Accept again makes the force selection overlay disappear, allowing the game to proceed?

If I remember correctly, before the fix, once it got into this state, hitting Accept did nothing, so the force selection overlay was really stuck on the screen, preventing the battle from being played properly.

Is anyone else (who is reading this) still getting this issue?

Polskers wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:26 pm The issue seems to be fixed for me and I'm not sure what did it!

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:33 pm

Polskers wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:26 pm The issue seems to be fixed for me and I'm not sure what did it!

Me neither.

Polskers wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:42 pm

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:33 pm

Polskers wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:26 pm The issue seems to be fixed for me and I'm not sure what did it!

Me neither.

Unfortunately, playing today and the issue seems to be back, BUT not with every battle.

Tested the start of ten battles, and it happened to me in four. Those four battles happened to be the first battle of the Julius Caesar campaign AND the first battle of the Philip of Macedon campaign. It was fixed, on both occasions, by using up all my points so I had basically none left, but when I left points leftover, the force selection screen didn't disappear. In the other battles I tested - the start of the Hittite campaign and the Ramesses II campaign, leaving points leftover didn't cause the force selection screen to persist on the screen and so there was no issue the overlay.

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Not sure what the issue is but perhaps it can be looked at, at some point, for a patch. I'm sure I'm not the only one having this issue but it's so inconsistent seeming. It's very interesting, however, that I noted it with those two campaigns. I do however think it could just be a "generalised" bug that happens to show up there.

Paul59 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:59 pm I managed to recreate your issue with the Julius Caesar campaign, but I got rid of the force selection screen by simply clicking on the Accept button again.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:23 am

Paul59 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:59 pm I managed to recreate your issue with the Julius Caesar campaign, but I got rid of the force selection screen by simply clicking on the Accept button again.

This being the case, and together with the fact that there is no good reason to not use up all your force points (other than to test for this bug), I don't think we should worry too much about it.

That being said, have you encountered it (since the update) only with campaign battles, or with single custom battles as well?

Paul59 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:50 am

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:23 am

Paul59 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:59 pm I managed to recreate your issue with the Julius Caesar campaign, but I got rid of the force selection screen by simply clicking on the Accept button again.

This being the case, and together with the fact that there is no good reason to not use up all your force points (other than to test for this bug), I don't think we should worry too much about it.

That being said, have you encountered it (since the update) only with campaign battles, or with single custom battles as well?

For me, I don't actually play custom battles, unless I am testing something. I also never fail to use all my force points, apart from loose change. So no, I haven't noticed it in Custom Battles.

However, I have just tested a few custom battles for you, and the problem did occur a few times there. I also noticed another relevant clue; the issue only occurs when the game offers you extra generals. I went back to check the Caesar and Philip campaigns, and the extra generals were offered there too!

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:23 am

Paul59 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:59 pm I managed to recreate your issue with the Julius Caesar campaign, but I got rid of the force selection screen by simply clicking on the Accept button again.

This being the case, and together with the fact that there is no good reason to not use up all your force points (other than to test for this bug), I don't think we should worry too much about it.

That being said, have you encountered it (since the update) only with campaign battles, or with single custom battles as well?

Karvon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:34 pm A problem I've run across in playing a campaign, I think it was an Assyrian one in STE, I detached forces in the garrison stage - adding some extra so I could rearrange my forces a little - but though the amount was displayed it only showed 1 pt of X being available so I couldn't actually purchase any additional troops. I reloaded a couple of times varying the amount and got the same result no matter how much I detached.

Polskers wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:32 pm

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:23 am

Paul59 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:59 pm I managed to recreate your issue with the Julius Caesar campaign, but I got rid of the force selection screen by simply clicking on the Accept button again.

This being the case, and together with the fact that there is no good reason to not use up all your force points (other than to test for this bug), I don't think we should worry too much about it.

That being said, have you encountered it (since the update) only with campaign battles, or with single custom battles as well?

Oh yes, I don't think it's that huge of an issue, not game-breaking at all, more of an inconvenience than anything and like you said - there's no good reason to not use up the force points anyway, so it's definitely not something to worry about. I'm not going to fret over it. It was more to bring it to your attention.

Still, I appreciate you guys checking it out! Much appreciated regardless.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:57 am

Polskers wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:32 pm

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:23 am This being the case, and together with the fact that there is no good reason to not use up all your force points (other than to test for this bug), I don't think we should worry too much about it.

That being said, have you encountered it (since the update) only with campaign battles, or with single custom battles as well?

Oh yes, I don't think it's that huge of an issue, not game-breaking at all, more of an inconvenience than anything and like you said - there's no good reason to not use up the force points anyway, so it's definitely not something to worry about. I'm not going to fret over it. It was more to bring it to your attention.

Still, I appreciate you guys checking it out! Much appreciated regardless.

This bug (feature) is in fact also present in Medieval if there are extra generals available. Because of the convoluted way the program flow interacts with the VizQ and the popup, and because we are not going to get an opportunity to massively play-test any attempted fix, there would be a risk that the "fix" would introduce a different bug.

As the current version of this "bug" does not actually prevent play, but just sometimes adds a couple of extra mouse clicks on the rare occasions you forget to spend all your points - think of it as a second opportunity to spend the extra points rather than wasting them - it is probably better just to leave it.