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You can reset your prestige to 9500, anyone know what happens if you chose to do that? If it is something interesting I might have a go at it!

Nothing, as stated in the text for the choice. Literally nothing besides the reset itself.

If really nothing happens it would be ridiculous.
I am expecting something like more few core slots in some missions.

DefiantXYX wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:46 am If really nothing happens it would be ridiculous.
I am expecting something like more few core slots in some missions.

It's there to just give those who think they have too much of it a chance to get rid of that or help those with too few to recover, as with all resets before.

Like I said, if this is just for players who are too lazy to google the cheat code for adjusting the prestige its riciculous.
Otherwise it wont change anything. Players who were running out of prestige in 1943 wont improve in 1944. Players who got 100k in the bank wont care, since their army is full of heroes and stuff and they can easily recover.

I did the reset and one scenario later I am at 15k, although I dont capture ecquipment and I am running the trait, that I dont get prestige with every turn.

If this event is just a try to balance the game/ balance overpowered core armies its a bit poor. Prestige doenst matter, heroes are the main problem talking about balance.

DefiantXYX wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:38 am Like I said, if this is just for players who are too lazy to google the cheat code for adjusting the prestige its riciculous.
Otherwise it wont change anything. Players who were running out of prestige in 1943 wont improve in 1944. Players who got 100k in the bank wont care, since their army is full of heroes and stuff and they can easily recover.

I did the reset and one scenario later I am at 15k, although I dont capture ecquipment and I am running the trait, that I dont get prestige with every turn.

If this event is just a try to balance the game/ balance overpowered core armies its a bit poor. Prestige doenst matter, heroes are the main problem talking about balance.

There ARE players who want to get rid of their prestige inflation without using cheat codes, that's why prestige sink was added since AO 39. And Elite objectives are there from AO 44 to "address the balance problem" if you haven't tried one of them yet. Heroes has already get a chance to spawn system from, I can't remember, AO 42 maybe, so you can turn them down and even off.

VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:25 am There ARE players who want to get rid of their prestige inflation without using cheat codes, that's why prestige sink was added since AO 39.

I do not agree. Prestige sink always had some effect, since you get points in exchange. Without prestige sink in SCW you cant get galland for example, I cant remember the rewards in the later dlcs but as would say at least 75% of the prestige sinks are worth it.

And Elite objectives are there from AO 44 to "address the balance problem" if you haven't tried one of them yet.

I did. Doesnt matter if the enemy units got 10, 15 or 50 hp. Nothing can hurt a 5 -Star Panther A with 3 good heroes.I really like the elite objectives but it wont change anything. It is still like a walk in the park...but I only played 3 maps so far

Heroes has already get a chance to spawn system from, I can't remember, AO 42 maybe, so you can turn them down and even off.

Sure, I could sell all zero slot heroes. Or enable all negative traits while selecting no positives traits. But what is this? I dont play an ego-shooter only with melee weapons when its too easy...

I know I repeat myself all the time but the only chance to balance the game for everyone is to rework the hero system completly!

And rework the general traits! Prototypes for 1 point in 1942/1943/1944 is hilarious. I know I should not have picked it but I like the suprise. In sceneario 3 I got 20 units a tank thats even stronger than the tiger II. Wtf, this unit cant be destroyed even if its out of ammo and surrounded.

No effect from the 2 prestige sinks. At least 1 Core Slot for each sink would be appreciated

I mean that would reward those who sink tenthousands of prestige with something little, and it would help those who need the sink to recover.
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The new hero interfacei is way better, but the search for trait doenst seem to work everytime. sometimes the ui finds "overrun" sometimes not, same for "Hit and Run". But it was late, maybe i was just to tired and i mispelled the words.
But whats really missing in the hero assingment ui is the abilityto form teams.
I mean:
"hey, go use only infantry units" - reassigning most of my infantry-unit heros.
then
"go, air only"....guess what....yes reassigning all of my...
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considering balance:
my worst core was able to struggle through the ahistorical part. its lacking lots of zero slot heros. but enemy aircraft seems to weak in all missions i played so far on the ahistorical part. strategic anti air is too strong. ok im playing "ant iair veteran" due to the lack of "lethal attack" heros but im using 1 of those named "uber anti air heros" in my su-152 artillery so....the amount of enemy aircraft should be raised a little outside of the air only mission.

some hero exchange system would be nice. i got so many overwhelming attack and shock tacticss/envelopment heros in this core and i dont wanna use them, but only 1 lethal hero at the start of 44.
or 3 or 4 Overrun heros....i am still waiting for a "phased movement" hero for my resilent verdeja recon

something like hero points:
sell a good hero for 2 points or a weak hero for 1 point and buy 1 hero for 6 points would be a nice addition.

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:20 pm The new hero interfacei is way better, but the search for trait doenst seem to work everytime. sometimes the ui finds "overrun" sometimes not, same for "Hit and Run". But it was late, maybe i was just to tired and i mispelled the words.
But whats really missing in the hero assingment ui is the abilityto form teams.
I mean:
"hey, go use only infantry units" - reassigning most of my infantry-unit heros.
then
"go, air only"....guess what....yes reassigning all of my...

yep new interface is nice. i experienced the same. was unyielding with me, i even made screenshot and posted it in the beta forum. 1 save/reload later issue was gone. very weird.

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:20 pm some hero exchange system would be nice. i got so many overwhelming attack and shock tacticss/envelopment heros in this core and i dont wanna use them, but only 1 lethal hero at the start of 44.
or 3 or 4 Overrun heros....i am still waiting for a "phased movement" hero for my resilent verdeja recon

something like hero points:
sell a good hero for 2 points or a weak hero for 1 point and buy 1 hero for 6 points would be a nice addition.

on any playthrough so far i experience this kind of hero clustering as well. it is allways a different one, but this is the nature of true random on a computer. u get clusters.
some kind of hero diversification would be a nice add to the current mechanics.

sers,
Thomas

It's entirely under your control to make the game very hard by activating only one hero per unit or making that you only receive a hero once every four missions or something. You have all the tools at your disposal to make this game stupid easy or impossible hard. I don't get it how difficulty can be a problem.

You definately got a point. But I dont like the black and white mode, either you got 3 heroes and you are op, or you only got 1 hero and david vs. goliath wont work any longer.
My point is I dont want to play 5 DLCs and build up an army and put 75% on reserve to balance the game. Its war, its all or nothing. I could also use only 50% core slots, only use 1939 equiptment and so...
Plus I dont have to time to test different settings. I raise the claim to the game to make it hard when I select hard.

Thats why I am always asking for a rework of the hero and trait-system.
And I also know thats a problem 99% of all players dont have.

DefiantXYX wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:31 pm You definately got a point. But I dont like the black and white mode, either you got 3 heroes and you are op, or you only got 1 hero and david vs. goliath wont work any longer.
My point is I dont want to play 5 DLCs and build up an army and put 75% on reserve to balance the game. Its war, its all or nothing. I could also use only 50% core slots, only use 1939 equiptment and so...
Plus I dont have to time to test different settings. I raise the claim to the game to make it hard when I select hard.

Thats why I am always asking for a rework of the hero and trait-system.
And I also know thats a problem 99% of all players dont have.

It takes like a minute to make the game incredibly hard if you want to. Limit yourself to 1 hero per unit with force dispersion, enable the chance that heroes die in combat, and many other things. I really don't get why people complain about the game not being hard enough but then not using the many options available to make it as hard as they want.

FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:33 pm I really don't get why people complain about the game not being hard enough but then not using the many options available to make it as hard as they want.

what u are not getting is that we are complaining about the impossibility to fine tune.
It's either "walk in the park" or "Hell on earth apokalypse mode".

thats what virgil was trying to say with his "either Black or white".

sers,
Thomas

Thats the reason why i was hoping for some "levers" to adjust some of the challenges/traits. Or new challenges/traits

But im pretty sure Elite mission objectives with 50OS enemy units or 30+ bunkers will be impossible to kill with "Berserk Rage".
But i dont think that rebalancing heros would solve the "difficulty" problem. There is a lot of stuff that makes the game way easier. If the team would remove all of them, they would remove a lot of fun for a high amount of players aswell.

And heros are a point that can players handle temself with a lot of option. you can restrict yourself to 1-4 heros, you can sell heros you dislike or dont want, you can make them mortal and you can use the concole command to create heros you want.
so in my opinion there is more need in finetuning options like Grondel said.

Grondel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:58 pm

FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:33 pm I really don't get why people complain about the game not being hard enough but then not using the many options available to make it as hard as they want.

what u are not getting is that we are complaining about the impossibility to fine tune.
It's either "walk in the park" or "Hell on earth apokalypse mode".

thats what virgil was trying to say with his "either Black or white".

sers,
Thomas

Is it really though? Unless you just aren't willing to try things out but is that really the fault of the game if people don't want to work to find what they find the right balance? Like one of the biggest claims of inbalance is heroes and it's incredibly easy to have anywhere from 1-4 of them on units depending on what you want. Personally I play with 0 heroes outside of the ones gotten through commendation points and found the game to definitely be more enjoyable to what I want.

I honestly wonder what exactly people are looking for in terms of potentially fine tuning balance because most things I can think of have various options in game you can already tweak.

Grondel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:58 pm

FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:33 pm I really don't get why people complain about the game not being hard enough but then not using the many options available to make it as hard as they want.

what u are not getting is that we are complaining about the impossibility to fine tune.
It's either "walk in the park" or "Hell on earth apokalypse mode".

thats what virgil was trying to say with his "either Black or white".

sers,
Thomas

To add to what FunPolice has just posted, I really don't think there is any "balance issue" for AOs. They are single player campaigns where you only fight the AI, that is, purely PVE. Balance topics is better to go to the multiplayer side, where unit status, cost etc matters because that's PVP. PVE games/modes should just leave the choice to players, how he want to play something or not want to, not "oh I don't like playing this way so they have to change it for everyone".

I do support more customisations because that's where they allow players to choose, but not "I'm having this and this problem in SP mode so you should reorder it to fit my taste and just mine". And we are also off topic now, so better stop arguing in someone else's topic about our own ideas and open a dedicated one if you still want to discuss more about your opinions.

FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:17 am Personally I play with 0 heroes outside of the ones gotten through commendation points and found the game to definitely be more enjoyable to what I want.

That means you are leaving out a main part of the game. Dealing and playing with heroes makes the difference compared to other games, or the very old panzergeneral games. If you want to skip this feature thats fine, like I already said there are multiple ways to make the game harder. But that is not what I want, I want to fight with everything I got, everything the game offers me. Skill, traits and so on its just finetuning.

And finally back to topic: Indeed, you get noting for the prestige reset which is sad. Even a small reward would have been nice, like 2 core slot for every map you are playing...