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Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:12 am
by yogkangaroo
Hello and good morning, hope you're all having a wonderful weekend
My name is Yogdog, and I'm one of the streamers who streams on the SlitherineTV twitch channel 1-2 times a week.
With the release of Panzer Corp 2 in a few days, Slitherine has very kindly provided me a copy of the DLC to preview. I've started recording episodes for youtube, and the first couple went up today. I've got 4 more episodes for tomorrow, and on Monday I'll have even more out.
I've used an imported 1943 force with all unlocks (i.e. the ME262's from 1943) and will be pursuing the ahistorical campaign. I may well do the historical campaign as well in future as well.
If you want to watch the preview, it can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... gdCvJ-oBtC
My main grand campaign run which features all DLC's is here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... hXmbwzSnQ5
Thankyou for your time and wish you a great day
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:12 pm
by Sequester Grundleplith, MD
Cool. Already looks like at least one new model they hadn't talked about in the dev diaries
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
by Retributarr
"Leary"... "Questions and Queries":
I am seeing - or think i am seeing - or witnessing what are too or for me... 'Game-Play' anomalies! - ???... .
I see what i think i saw was a 'Switcheroo' of two units... what would be classed as concurrently changing or switching places simultaneously!... how is that done?.
I also think i saw your 'Long-Range-Heavy-Artillery' blast-off at least 6-shots or Artillery volleys during a single turn-effort at... at least two separate targets... how is that possible???. I always only had 'One-Shot' per turn unless i had a 'Double-Shot' hero embedded in the Artillery-Unit... so only a maximum of two artillery discharges... not 'Six!'.
Normally it takes me at least '2' or even '3' of my fighters to shoot down one enemy aircraft... yet i think i was seeing on a regular-basis your fighters using only one-fighter at a time to shoot down an opposing aircraft?... and not only that.., but that same single aircraft in that engagement was also able to shoot down another opposing air unit?. How is that possible???.
To me... it seems that something 'Wierd and Wonky'... and unnatural is going on here!... can you please 'Clarify'.
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:45 pm
by Grondel
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
"Leary"... "Questions and Queries":
I am seeing - or think i am seeing - or witnessing what are too or for me... 'Game-Play' anomalies! - ???... .
I see what i think i saw was a 'Switcheroo' of two units... what would be classed as concurrently changing or switching places simultaneously!... how is that done?.
if both units are able to make the move, press shift + left click with one of the units selected and clicking on the other.
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
I also think i saw your 'Long-Range-Heavy-Artillery' blast-off at least 6-shots or Artillery volleys during a single turn-effort at... at least two separate targets... how is that possible???. I always only had 'One-Shot' per turn unless i had a 'Double-Shot' hero embedded in the Artillery-Unit... so only a maximum of two artillery discharges... not 'Six!'.
probably a 21cm with camouflage firing during enemies turn.
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
Normally it takes me at least '2' or even '3' of my fighters to shoot down one enemy aircraft... yet i think i was seeing on a regular-basis your fighters using only one-fighter at a time to shoot down an opposing aircraft?... and not only that.., but that same single aircraft in that engagement was also able to shoot down another opposing air unit?. How is that possible???.
even a FW190a can easily kill 2 enemy planes of 10 str with the propper hero-combination. something like first strike + double attack + machine gun should be enough for that. When it comes to the Me262 gift u can get during 1943 that alone is enough unless facing heavy overstrength units.
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
To me... it seems that something 'Wierd and Wonky'... and unnatural is going on here!... can you please 'Clarify'.
no, just heavy abuse of overpowered game mechanics
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
by Bee1976
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
"Leary"... "Questions and Queries":
I am seeing - or think i am seeing - or witnessing what are too or for me... 'Game-Play' anomalies! - ???... .
I see what i think i saw was a 'Switcheroo' of two units... what would be classed as concurrently changing or switching places simultaneously!... how is that done?.
I also think i saw your 'Long-Range-Heavy-Artillery' blast-off at least 6-shots or Artillery volleys during a single turn-effort at... at least two separate targets... how is that possible???. I always only had 'One-Shot' per turn unless i had a 'Double-Shot' hero embedded in the Artillery-Unit... so only a maximum of two artillery discharges... not 'Six!'.
Normally it takes me at least '2' or even '3' of my fighters to shoot down one enemy aircraft... yet i think i was seeing on a regular-basis your fighters using only one-fighter at a time to shoot down an opposing aircraft?... and not only that.., but that same single aircraft in that engagement was also able to shoot down another opposing air unit?. How is that possible???.
To me... it seems that something 'Wierd and Wonky'... and unnatural is going on here!... can you please 'Clarify'.
You can switch units if you select a unit and "shift+leftclick" the unit you want to switch places.
I havent seen his video (i dislike spoiling myself). I only know one (boring) way to have an artillery shoot more than 1 (or 2 with double attack hero) time per own-round:
overrunhero active on that artillery and steamroller trait activated. as long as you kill the enemy you can fire all your ammunition out. Or you combine that with a double attack hero aswell, in case you dont kill the enmy on the first attack.
i.e. 21cm Gun 4 Heros( Rapid fire 1.5; Elsa Kloß, Double Attack and Overrun (steamroller activated) is a real beast that will carry you through all missions if you use it correctly. You can swap out double attack for Ignores enttrenchment Hero if you like for even more damage.
The plane question isnt that easy to answer. again i havent watched the video. I will do it after release or if Slitherine got a heart for me and give me a copy before release (hehe - yes im addicted)
Without any addiional challenges like uphill battle and/or david vs goliath my planes normally kill enemy planes aswell on their attack. I prefer using the best fighters available (like FW > BF) and OS them to 12 or 14, depending on my slots.
And i try to let them always attack first (high initiative fighters with +initiative heros like galland use "Hit'n'Run" -Hero, otherwise i always use my "NO Retaliation" or "Strikes First" Heros on 1-3 of my fighters and/or fighter bombers. Its depending on my playthrough, houserules, challenges and so on how many aircraft i use.
I hope that helps a little
€dit:
ahhhhhhhhhh Grodel was faster than me
p.s. 3 days left
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:53 pm
by Grondel
Bee1976 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
I havent seen his video (i dislike spoiling myself).
i stopped watching it when i saw the 10 commander-trait points.
Bee1976 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
i.e. 21cm Gun 4 Heros( Rapid fire 1.5; Elsa Kloß, Double Attack and Overrun (steamroller activated) is a real beast that will carry you through all missions if you use it correctly
overrun hero on arty, good point. i restrickt myself to only have them on infantrie, forgot about that abuse.
Bee1976 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
ahhhhhhhhhh Grodel was faster than me
i just started earlier
sers,
Thomas
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:19 pm
by Agrastas
Nice, no preview for 1943 was pretty uncool
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:59 pm
by yogkangaroo
Bee1976 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:46 pm
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:29 pm
"Leary"... "Questions and Queries":
I am seeing - or think i am seeing - or witnessing what are too or for me... 'Game-Play' anomalies! - ???... .
I see what i think i saw was a 'Switcheroo' of two units... what would be classed as concurrently changing or switching places simultaneously!... how is that done?.
I also think i saw your 'Long-Range-Heavy-Artillery' blast-off at least 6-shots or Artillery volleys during a single turn-effort at... at least two separate targets... how is that possible???. I always only had 'One-Shot' per turn unless i had a 'Double-Shot' hero embedded in the Artillery-Unit... so only a maximum of two artillery discharges... not 'Six!'.
Normally it takes me at least '2' or even '3' of my fighters to shoot down one enemy aircraft... yet i think i was seeing on a regular-basis your fighters using only one-fighter at a time to shoot down an opposing aircraft?... and not only that.., but that same single aircraft in that engagement was also able to shoot down another opposing air unit?. How is that possible???.
To me... it seems that something 'Wierd and Wonky'... and unnatural is going on here!... can you please 'Clarify'.
You can switch units if you select a unit and "shift+leftclick" the unit you want to switch places.
I havent seen his video (i dislike spoiling myself). I only know one (boring) way to have an artillery shoot more than 1 (or 2 with double attack hero) time per own-round:
overrunhero active on that artillery and steamroller trait activated. as long as you kill the enemy you can fire all your ammunition out. Or you combine that with a double attack hero aswell, in case you dont kill the enmy on the first attack.
i.e. 21cm Gun 4 Heros( Rapid fire 1.5; Elsa Kloß, Double Attack and Overrun (steamroller activated) is a real beast that will carry you through all missions if you use it correctly. You can swap out double attack for Ignores enttrenchment Hero if you like for even more damage.
The plane question isnt that easy to answer. again i havent watched the video. I will do it after release or if Slitherine got a heart for me and give me a copy before release (hehe - yes im addicted)
Without any addiional challenges like uphill battle and/or david vs goliath my planes normally kill enemy planes aswell on their attack. I prefer using the best fighters available (like FW > BF) and OS them to 12 or 14, depending on my slots.
And i try to let them always attack first (high initiative fighters with +initiative heros like galland use "Hit'n'Run" -Hero, otherwise i always use my "NO Retaliation" or "Strikes First" Heros on 1-3 of my fighters and/or fighter bombers. Its depending on my playthrough, houserules, challenges and so on how many aircraft i use.
I hope that helps a little
€dit:
ahhhhhhhhhh Grodel was faster than me
p.s. 3 days left
You got this all correct ty for answering! I was away today unfortunately and only just got home.
I should say, this run has been a pretty fun one but isn't really that difficult (by design here). I'm only playing on second difficulty and no limits on what I use etc, as I wanted a fairly chilled runthrough and just wanted to play for fun, there are quite a few streamers/youtubers out there far better than I am that play at a far higher level
Re: Axis Operations 1944 Preview
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:22 pm
by Bee1976
yogkangaroo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:59 pm
I'm only playing on second difficulty and no limits on what I use etc, as I wanted a fairly chilled runthrough and just wanted to play for fun,
Well thats the main purpose of playing a game - having fun
So i wont ever judge someone for playing a game the way he/she has the most fun. I havent watched your preview yet, because i cant wait the release date
I dont want spoilers, thats one of the reasons i never assign for beta tests hehe
(The other reason is bad english and i would binge the game like a moron for dozens of hours without testing anything special, i know myself...)
So i will watch 1944 stuff after i finished both pathes 2-3 times
yogkangaroo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:59 pm
there are quite a few streamers/youtubers out there far better than I am that play at a far higher level
Same, there are so many good players out there with more skill/knowledge than me. And i think for new or normal players its more fun to watch a smooth playhtrough than crazy stuff.