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Support Fire for Arty and Counter Attack for Vessels

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:59 am
by Acer6920
gents i need again your expertise for modding.

i play a bit around and was able to activate support AA (just an example) for all Naval Vessels now i want to do same for arty (like the Support AT option) when it is behind my units that they attack or give some defense fire . Is this possible for arty in OoB:WW2? i try it in the txt file with adding supportarty but this is not enough i think :lol: . i look for a file where i can add this command but i wasn't able to found something.
Was thinkig about to add for arty up to 105mm the option to give firesupport when inf is attacking inf and for the 150mm the option for support fire when tanks are attacking something like this like in Panzer Corps 2 and for the BFG Arty with range of 7 or 8 something like counter fire for other arty guns?

and second thing is is it possible to give vessels the option to do counter attack?
There was a similar question here but with no final solution.

Thanks gents and lads for your input and help.

Re: Support Fire for Arty and Counter Attack for Vessels

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:43 pm
by Erik2
Back in the day naval vessels would counter-attack, but this was removed at one point.
I miss it. Maybe the devs could add the original behaviour as an option for modding?

Re: Support Fire for Arty and Counter Attack for Vessels

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:43 am
by StuccoFresco
Acer6920 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:59 am gents i need again your expertise for modding.

i play a bit around and was able to activate support AA (just an example) for all Naval Vessels now i want to do same for arty (like the Support AT option) when it is behind my units that they attack or give some defense fire . Is this possible for arty in OoB:WW2? i try it in the txt file with adding supportarty but this is not enough i think :lol: . i look for a file where i can add this command but i wasn't able to found something.
Was thinkig about to add for arty up to 105mm the option to give firesupport when inf is attacking inf and for the 150mm the option for support fire when tanks are attacking something like this like in Panzer Corps 2 and for the BFG Arty with range of 7 or 8 something like counter fire for other arty guns?

and second thing is is it possible to give vessels the option to do counter attack?
There was a similar question here but with no final solution.

Thanks gents and lads for your input and help.
I tried to mod this in extensively, but I had to give up. There is no way to add it as far as I know.

Same for the ships: I really really don't like that ships don't return fire: it makes naval combat somewhat of a rocket tag where you can (and must) nova a target with all you got to remove it without it ever firing back, thus eliminating any risk for reckless behavior (since you also moved in to attack, the enemy will have an harder time hitting you).

Re: Support Fire for Arty and Counter Attack for Vessels

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:18 pm
by bondjamesbond
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Why was it necessary to remove the return fire function ? :shock:


P.s.
10 of the bloodiest naval battles of the Second World War by the number of killed
10. Operation Juno



- Norwegian Sea

- June 8 , 1940

- Britain against Nazi Germany

- Losses: British - 1,612

- Losses: Germans - 50

Despite Norway's surrender in April, the UK is still present in northern Norway.



#10 can be:



10. Battle of the Tarigo Convoy



- Kerkenna Islands, Mediterranean Sea

- April 16 , 1941

- Britain vs. Italy

- Losses: Britain - 43

- Losses: Italy - 350-1 800

Britain destroyed Italian ships going to North Africa.



9. The Battle of the North Cape



- Barents Sea

- December 26 , 1943

- The British Empire against Nazi Germany

- Losses: British - 21

- Losses: German - 1,932

The British victory ended with a major turning point in the Battle of the Atlantic



8. The last battle of the battleship Bismarck

- Near Brest, France

- May 26-27 , 1941

- Great Britain against Nazi Germany

- Losses: British - 5

- Losses: Germans - 2,200

The British panicked after their ship "Hood" was sunk a few days earlier. They managed to sink the Bismarck shortly before it reached French ports.



7. Battle of Matapan

- Near Crete, Mediterranean Sea

- March 27 - March 29 , 1941

- The British Empire against Italy

- Losses: British - 3

- Losses: Italians - 2,300

The British sank an Italian battleship and several cruisers. This greatly weakened the Italian fleet.



6. The Battle of the Java Sea

- Java Sea, Indonesia

- February 27 , 1942

- The Netherlands against the Japanese Empire

- Losses: Dutch - 2,300

- Losses: Japanese - 36

The Japanese destroyed the Dutch fleet and conquered Dutch Indonesia.



5. The Battle of the Bismarck Sea

- Bismarck Sea, Papua New Guinea

- March 2 - March 4 , 1943

- The United States against the Japanese Empire

- Losses: Americans - 13

- Losses: Japanese - 2,890

The Japanese tried to send reinforcements to Papua New Guinea, but the Americans attacked before the Japanese could.



4. The Battle of the Philippine Sea

- Philippine Sea

- June 19 - June 20 , 1944

- The United States against the Japanese Empire

- Losses: Americans - 109

- Losses: Japanese - 2,987

This was another unsuccessful attempt by the Japanese to help their troops on Saipan.


3. The Battle of Midway


- Midway Atoll, Pacific Ocean

- June 4 - June 7 , 1942

- The United States against the Japanese Empire

- Losses: American - 307

- Losses: Japanese - 3057

Admiral Yamamoto was preparing for the second phase of expansion into Australia and the rest of the Pacific Ocean. However, many of his ships were destroyed on Midway Atoll. The battle was a turning point in the Pacific War



2. The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal

- Solomon Islands

- November 12 - November 15 , 1942

- The United States against the Japanese Empire

- Losses: Americans - 1732

- Losses: Japanese - 1900

The Japanese tried to prevent the Americans from capturing Guadalcanal. However, this naval attack failed, and the Japanese decided to evacuate the island.



1. Battle of Leyte Gulf

- Leyte Gulf, Philippines

- October 23 - October 26 , 1944

- The United States against the Japanese Empire

- Losses: Americans - 3000

- Losses: Japanese - 12,500

The Japanese threw their entire fleet into this battle to prevent the Americans from landing in the Philippines and cut off the supply of Indonesian oil. On the 25th, the first kamikaze attacks were carried out. The Japanese fleet was defeated



As you can see, most of the bloodiest naval battles of the war took place in the Pacific Ocean.

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