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Uphill or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:17 pm
by dave_r
A battle group of pike is directly in front of the light horse
The cavalry declare a charge such that they end up like this:
This counts as a frontal charge because the Cavalry did not begin behind the flank of the pikemen - but would the cavalry count as uphill? We assumed it would as they are uphill before they would conform.
Thoughts?
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:45 pm
by philqw78
How did you manage to contact like that as you can only wheel at the start of a charge
Other than that yes as your front edge is all uphill at contact
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:11 pm
by dave_r
I decided I didn't fancy the charge in any case, so we didn't measure the charge 100% correctly for the photo - just put it something like it would be.
It was possible to be uphill, but probably not end up as the photo suggests.
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:50 pm
by petedalby
I disagree.
P55 ..."is treated as a normal charge on the enemy front."
Since the enemy front is not on the hill I would say the chargers could not be on the hill either.
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:58 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:50 pm
I disagree.
P55 ..."is treated as a normal charge on the enemy front."
Since the enemy front is not on the hill I would say the chargers could not be on the hill either.
Well... That's the argument
The charge is treated as a normal charge on the front so the pike would have the two plusses for three and four ranks of pike. But "is treated" is not the same as "positioned as".
I raised this so we could get a concensus. I also included on facebook and Mr Briggs said he thought it would be uphill.
As long as we all know where we stand we are fine (did you see what I did there
). I dread to ask Terry as a tie breaker.... He'll probably come up with another option....
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:53 am
by terrys
As long as we all know where we stand we are fine (did you see what I did there
). I dread to ask Terry as a tie breaker.... He'll probably come up with another option....
Sorry to disappoint you Dave, but I agree with Graham - the charging cavalry would count as being uphill during the charge.
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:03 am
by petedalby
Good to know - thanks Terry
Re: Uphill or not?
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:12 am
by dave_r
terrys wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:53 am
As long as we all know where we stand we are fine (did you see what I did there
). I dread to ask Terry as a tie breaker.... He'll probably come up with another option....
Sorry to disappoint you Dave, but I agree with Graham - the charging cavalry would count as being uphill during the charge.
That's agreeing with me Terry. I also thought the cavalry would be uphill.
Nice to see you got something wrong