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Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:12 am
by w_michael
It rightly deserves a 5-star difficulty level. Short of immediately becoming a client-state of Rome, has anyone managed to survive as Samnium for 50+ years? I'm lucky to last 12 with an aggressive Rome AI.
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:11 am
by Swuul
w_michael wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:12 am
It rightly deserves a 5-star difficulty level. Short of immediately becoming a client-state of Rome, has anyone managed to survive as Samnium for 50+ years? I'm lucky to last 12 with an aggressive Rome AI.
Is this a challenge? Which scenario are we talking of? I've never actually to played as Samnium, but might be interesting to see how it goes

Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:32 pm
by Swuul
First attempt, less than stellar play from me (made quite a few doo-doos along the way), but it is now turn 51, Samnium is alive, has never been a client of any nation, and has just conquered Apulia from Rome.
Screen-shot of turn 51 start:
https://i.imgur.com/E8wmT4C.jpg
I might continue this and see if I can actually beat up Rome for real
The key to survival so far has been dumping manpower, metal and money to Ertruria. Those ungrateful bastards *still* refuse to ally me, but at least they have been able to put a fight. Samnia is allied with Boi, and my army has gathered some experience stars up north fighting in their wars against the various barbarians (and have extorted some provincial units from the barbarians in the peacetalks). I have tried to sweet talk Carthage, but they too ignore my alliance requests; however, they sold me four of their provincial phants, which nearly drove me broke (those giants cost a fortune in upkeep every turn -> I had to disband one of them as it was the only way to stay barely afloat

), but they sure give a nice oomph to my army).
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:41 pm
by Surt
Sounds interesting

like surviving with Elam in Persia!!!
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:02 pm
by w_michael
You are doing very well. In my three tries Rome declares war on Turn 10, and attacks with a 100+ point army led by a 2-2 general. The mountains help, but aren't enough. I was surprised to see that Samnium can build phallanx right from the start.
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:06 am
by Swuul
Don't try to build Phalanx as Samnium. First of all, they are horrible in hilly terrain, and secondly you have to be extremely lucky to even have high enough Armament limit to start producing them. If/when you are able to form the Italy Inferior province, you should build the Lin Teata legio; not only are they not-clumsy (unlike all other heavy infantry) but they also have the Mountainmen ability (so they actually are the best unit in the game to use in Hills or Mountains).
However, because of the Armament limit, Samnium is better to focus on Medium infantry. Use the regional decision to to recruit local troops every time you have it available, and recruit Regular infantry. Park 4-6 medium infantry and 6 light infantry inside the Fort of Umbria, together with the best defensive General you have. When Rome attacks, they will be bolstered by Palace guards and urban Militia, and the gates will hold.
Put your other units in the mobile army, try trade for units and/or extort the various barbarians (Cisaplina and Pannonia cavalry for example,, or 'phants from Carthage), and get into wars you can quickly finish (you just want to extort easy peaceconditions and hopefully make allies on the run).
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:55 am
by Swuul
Rome was conquered on turn 75, their last army, besieged in Cisalpina, accepted peace and joined the glorious city state of Samnium.
O quam cito transit gloria mundi.
Situation at start of turn 76:
https://i.imgur.com/GLmJfDb.jpg
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:38 pm
by Pocus
Excellent and fun

Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:30 am
by w_michael
Thanks for the inspiration. I will have to change my play style.
Re: Samnium in 310 BC
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:48 am
by Surt
Nicely done.