Slitherine

stockwellpete wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:27 am I want to hide the mounted unit in the woods from the player moving second in the game . . .

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I know that I have to add this text to the BSF file . . .

FUNCTION PostLOSActions()
{
if(GetTurn()==0)
{
SetAreaLOS(x,y,x2,y2,0,0);
}
}

What is the correct way of doing this? Do I screen off the last 3 rows of squares of the map from the Lancastrian player? Or should I just exclude a smaller area?

For the larger area the co-ordinates are 47,47 and 45,47 at the top of the map and 47,16 and 45,16 at the bottom. So I think the x,y,x2,y2 part should read 45,16,47,47. Is that correct?

I cannot remember exactly how the two zeroes after the x,y,x2,y2 sequence work, but I think you have to put a 1 in place one of one of the zeroes to make it work. I have tried all permutations without success.

Does the fact that the Lancastrian units are on elevated terrain prevent me from hiding the Yorkist cavalry?

Paul59 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:17 am The script merely turns on the normal LOS rules for the area chosen. So if the unit would be visible in turn 2 onwards, it will still be visible in turn 1.

Probably the unit is not far enough into the woods to be hidden. So try adding some more woods tiles, or move the unit back.

stockwellpete wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:39 am

Paul59 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:17 am The script merely turns on the normal LOS rules for the area chosen. So if the unit would be visible in turn 2 onwards, it will still be visible in turn 1.

Probably the unit is not far enough into the woods to be hidden. So try adding some more woods tiles, or move the unit back.

OK thanks. I'll have a look in a minute. The other issue might be the way I have constructed the woods. I have used the "Woods" terrain for the base, but instead of using the "Forest" option I have constructed the woods by using individual "Trees" from the Editor. Just for aesthetic reasons really. I am not sure if that is an issue or not.

rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:41 am Yes it is. It is the Forest object that blocks line of sight, not the Woods base tile, and not individual trees.

Paul59 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:49 am If you want to preserve the look of your map, you could try placing forest objects on your forest terrain tiles, but reduce them in size so that they are invisible.

You can easily change the size of objects in the Editor by using 2 keyboard keys. It might be the the Page Up and Page Down keys, but I can't check that from the middle of Dartmoor! I know it is definitely 2 keys in that general area of the keyboard, and it might be mentioned in the manual.

stockwellpete wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:57 am

Paul59 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:49 am If you want to preserve the look of your map, you could try placing forest objects on your forest terrain tiles, but reduce them in size so that they are invisible.

You can easily change the size of objects in the Editor by using 2 keyboard keys. It might be the the Page Up and Page Down keys, but I can't check that from the middle of Dartmoor! I know it is definitely 2 keys in that general area of the keyboard, and it might be mentioned in the manual.

I cannot see that in the Manual. I have made a note of it and I'll ask again when you are back at home.

rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:26 am Probably best not to fiddle about with microscopic objects. It might affect game performance. And if the trees are so sparsely scattered, how is the ambush hiding?

stockwellpete wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:16 am Another odd thing happening. This is the provisional set-up for Wakefield 1460 . . .


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You can see the two flanking, ambushing forces of the Lancastrians in the woods - when I go to Hot Seat I can see these ambushers as the Yorkist player on the first turn. But they disappear on the second Yorkist turn. Do I need to do anything? Or will this be resolved once it becomes an official scenario? Btw Sandal castle is sitting on elevated terrain, but I don't think this is the issue here.

FUNCTION PostLOSActions()
{
if(GetTurn()==0)
{
SetAreaLOS(x,y,x2,y2,0,0);
}
}

rbodleyscott wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:45 am
This is the same issue as we originally thought was the problem with the other one. You need to use the SetAreaLOS() code to make them invisible on the first turn.

stockwellpete wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:53 am

rbodleyscott wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:45 am
This is the same issue as we originally thought was the problem with the other one. You need to use the SetAreaLOS() code to make them invisible on the first turn.

Can I hide both groups of ambushers though without hiding the main body of Lancastrian soldiers?

FUNCTION PostLOSActions()
{
if(GetTurn()==0)
{
SetAreaLOS(x,y,x2,y2,0,0);
SetAreaLOS(x,y,x2,y2,0,0);
}
}

stockwellpete wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:06 pm It doesn't seem to like me having 2x LOS Functions.

FUNCTION PostLOSActions()
{
if(GetTurn()==0)
{
SetAreaLOS(41,24,47,33,0,0);
SetAreaLOS(16,29,19,37,0,0);
}
}

I took out one of the } after the first FUNCTION Post LOS Actions as I thought 2 of them together, one under the other means "The End". Is that right?

stockwellpete wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:07 am Still working on my archery parameters for that script. A couple of questions. Is it possible to prevent units moving and shooting in the same turn?

And is it possible to set different maximum ammo limits for "teams" within the same army?

rbodleyscott wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:25 pm
It wouldn't. You only need one PostLOSActions() function, with two calls to the SetAreaLOS() function, as I showed above.

rbodleyscott wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:33 pm
The risk of doing so is that your scenario may suddenly stop working at all after a game update affecting the vanilla version of that script. (Until you redo the modded script - which isn't a service that I can offer).

So I recommend against it.