Slitherine

Totally redone AGOT mod with faction banners and unit textures.

Versions 1.0 - 1.2 Changelog
Added armylists for the main houses of Westeros as well as Freys, Boltons, and Joffrey's half Baratheron half Lannister house. Also added Wildlings and Nights Watch.

Version 1.3 Changelog
Added the Free Cities of Essos to the Armylist, for the most part they share the same units, basic city militia and free company mercenaries form the bulk of their troops. The westernmost free cities also get Westerosi sellswords. Volantis has it's own army with Elephants and the Tiger Cloak guardsmen. Qohor's army is mostly unsullied with a few city guard and noble lancers and other mercs supporting them. Norvos gets some Bearded Warrior Priests with armor and 2handed axes. Most of the cities also have Sellsword Bravos with rapiers and shields.
Added westerosi sellsword spearmen, crossbowmen, longbowmen and polearmsmen to the armylists.
Redone Greyjoy list, now with round shields instead of kite shields.
New textures for Raw Spearmen.
New texture for Northern Clansmen that gives them tartan kilts.
Tweaked armor for all Bannermen and Men at Arms to create more variety.

Version 1.4 Changelog
Added the Dothraki, they have horse archers, mounted javelins, and some elite shock cavalry.
Added 6 epic battles, Redgrass Field from the Blackfyre rebellion. The taking of Gulltown, Battles of Summerhall, Battle of Ashford, Battle of the Bells, and the Battle of the Trident.

LATEST VERSION 1.5 Changelog
Added the city states of Slaver's Bay, also Qarth.
Added a Liberated Astapor(Cleon the butcher) with an armylist of rabble freed slaves and pit fighters
Added a Daenerys factions with Unsullied, Dothraki, and freed slaves.
Added a new free company lancer unit, and free company Telosi slingers.
fixed units that have option to dismount that shouldn't.

Also please post a description of any bugs you find, i've played each army but i'm just one person so i'm sure i've missed some stuff.

For Multiplayer copy and paste the Game of Thrones mod into your
Documents/My Games/FieldOfGloryMedieval/MULTIPLAYER folder.
Your MP opponent needs to do the same.

Download Link 1.5 ---> https://www.mediafire.com/file/7p6ig3uv ... 5.zip/file

SnuggleBunnies' patch - This patch fixes some Unit AP stats and tries to balance the Giants' stats. Place in the mod directory in
user/documents/my games/fieldofglorymedieval/campaigns/agotv1.5 or in
user/documents/my games/fieldofglorymedieval/multiplayer/agotv1.5
Be aware that for multiplayer, anyone you play with will need to have the same file or else it will generate errors.

Battle of the Trident Hotfix- This is a hotfix for some unit name errors that broke the battle of the trident, just replace your BattleoftheTrident.bam in your mod's SCENARIOS folder with the one in this zipfile

Looks great! Where do you install this, if I might ask?
Is it only battles, or are campaigns also included?

You unpack the AGOTv1.2 folder into your Documents\My Games\FieldOfGloryMedieval\CAMPAIGNS folder. Then when after you start FOG2M select battle custom battle, then this

As a fan of A Song of Ice and Fire, very happy to see this mod!
Will there be epic battles in the future?

wzfcns wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:18 am As a fan of A Song of Ice and Fire, very happy to see this mod!
Will there be epic battles in the future?

Oh yea I plan to do the Battle of Redgrass Field, the many battles of Robert's Rebellion, and the battles fought in the War of the Five Kings. I'm also working on adding Essos factions, but those will most likely just be for Custom Battle mode.

Great! Thank you, Smickey! Looking forward to having some fun with this one.

Here's some screenshots showing the modded units.

More Screenshots

SmickeyMcgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:34 pm

Great work, time for stream of consciousness feedback/unit ideas on army lists:

FREE FOLK

Giants: Could use oversized berserker models and give them say, HW and Impact Foot?

Frozen Shore Chariots: Say... Above Avg Light Chariots, Light Spear

Thenns: Above Average, Some Armor, Offensive Spearmen. Could use armored hoplites skin, or something like that

NIGHT'S WATCH
Didn't they field a greater number of archers on ranging? The proportion seems to go off only a third of the watch being Rangers, but those 2/3 would only see combat in desperate defensive circumstances. I think more archers might be called for, but they could be a bit less deadly than the impact/bow/swords. Maybe just Bow/Swordsmen.

STARK
Free Riders could perhaps be Light Spear/Swords to allow a bit of flex and to reflect their erm selective bravery?

Sellsword Polearmsmen are 720 men but only have 8 models. Also not sure if Below Avg makes the 36pt costing correct with that number of men.

Pikemen have 720 men, so they are basically oversized Spearmen, as they will get no Deep Pike, but unlike Spearmen they do not reduce enemy infantry Swordsmen POAs. Is this intended?

Stark Bannermen are 72pts and 400 men... I assume the oversized cavalry unit is an error? Note that they display as 240 in the list, but put them into the field and its 400. Does not appear to be a scaling issue.


To be continued...

SmickeyMcgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:34 pm

HOUSE MARTELL

Maybe a number of light cavalry javelinmen? TO SPEARS and all that.

FREE CITY OF QOHOR

The Qohorik City Guard unit looks tiny in the unit preview screen

The lists look solid and well researched, and the graphics work is amazing. That said, a minor quibble that might be worth addressing in the long term, though it would be a lot of work.

Given the mentions of plate armor etc., the general tech level for a lot of Westeros seems to be more 1400s than 12 or 1300s. With that in mind, more use of Storm of Arrows and Rise of the Swiss assets could make sense for general appearance - plate armored men at arms, sallets, late crossbowmen, etc. That said it might not be worth considering any texture/model changes until the remaining DLCs for Medieval and Ancients come out, which should give you new things to work with.

Eventually, when it's in a more or less final state, I encourage you to contact RBS to make it an official download - tho given copyright concerns maybe they won't, not sure about that angle, but it's worth asking so they can check.

Edit: No Dothraki or Daenerys lists? The former would be pretty easy, basically Huns. The latter would be a bit more work.

I very much doubt if we could make a Games of Thrones mod an official mod - for copyright/intellectual property reasons.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:39 pm I very much doubt if we could make a Games of Thrones mod an official mod - for copyright/intellectual property reasons.

Fair enough, I thought that might be the case.

SmickeyMcgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:34 pm

One more note. RE units, a lot of the lights get 50% Swords, an expensive trait that is mostly wasted on lights. Would it not make sense to drop it on all but a few specialists?

SnuggleBunnies wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:25 pm

I like the ideas for free folk chariots and thenns. I had the same giants idea but i can't figure out the scaling it's not as simple as modifying squads.csv unitscaling. I think id have to do something with the s4f model and i dont know how to edit the 3d stuff. As for night's watch that list didnt get much love. Ive been thinking of adding night watch archers and crossbowmen. Also adding a couple of units of Northern Clansmen would fit in since lore wise they were said to be the watch's closest allies. Also add stark to the ally list.
Good eye on the troop numbers those are indeed bugs and i just went into squads and fixed the numbers.
The unit cost is something ive had alot of trouble determining. Point balancing the lists is gonna be a whole process.
The tiny preview for qohorik is just a messed up value in squads.csv, just fixed it.
The reason for the 13th century look is theres more variation and models to work with. The knight models used have shields and multiple helmet variants. Whereas the new knight model from storm of arrows only has 1 helmet variant and no shield. However who knows what new models might be added in future DLC. If some more 14-15th century flavored models get added i'd totally think about redoing some stuff.
The reason no Dothraki is i didn't see how i could retexture any of the horse archer models to look like them. I could just do a placeholder though using the default hun models and a custom dothraki faction banner.
As for Daenerys there's no way to do dragons. The white walkers and undead however might be possible with retexturing.
The 50% swords is just to help them lose less quickly in melee, and to make them actually able to hold rough terrain.

looks cool, let me know if you are interested in making any code/rules changes on top of the visuals/army lists etc...

SmickeyMcgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:39 pm

The Dothraki as Huns is fine I think, and really Martin's portrayal of the Huns as berserk chargers is frankly weird for a steppe people, who historically always had low populations and relied on horse archery (along with his peasant levies tropes).

As for Daenerys, why not have her army sans dragons? Unsullied, Dothraki, freed slaves.

RE lights, even with 50% Swords they can't hold terrain against non-lights; it's generally a straight waste of points, it only helps them in fighting other lights.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:39 pm

If Richard is cool with it I could provide you with a recent Medieval point values chart for unit costing. Otherwise, I could just go through the lists and offer my suggestions based on what things cost in vanilla

SnuggleBunnies wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 pm If Richard is cool with it I could provide you with a recent Medieval point values chart for unit costing.

That will be fine. Note, however, that Longbows will be going down to 2.5 for all (per 100 UnitSize), instead of 3 for non-raw and 2.5 for raw.

SmickeyMcgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:39 pm

SnuggleBunnies wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:25 pm

I like the ideas for free folk chariots and thenns. I had the same giants idea but i can't figure out the scaling it's not as simple as modifying squads.csv unitscaling. I think id have to do something with the s4f model and i dont know how to edit the 3d stuff.

No, you don't need to change the s4f model. You can change a models size in game simply by changing it's UnitScaling number in the Squads.csv file.

Richard is the expert on this, but I think it goes something like this:

Equal to, or less than 999 = this reduces the models natural height. ie: 900 = 0.9 of models natural height

0 = No scaling, the model uses it's natural height in game.

Greater than 1000 (?)= this increases the models natural height. ie: 2500 = 2.5 times the models natural height.

It's something like that, I am away at the moment, so can't check it in game.




cheers

Paul

A or B for the giant's texture? I dont really like either of them but cant think of what to do for giant clothes.

A

SmickeyMcgee wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:02 pm

Also - check your PMs RE points chart