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Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:29 pm
by MarcoT.
We are pleased to announce another Field of Glory 2 Medieval public tournament. This will be played using the normal Field of Glory 2 Multiplayer system and our automated tournament system.

Anyone who has Field of Glory II Medieval can enter. You do not need to own any DLCs to enter.

To enter, go to the tournament page: here

The general tournament rules can be found: here

The first round will commence on Thursday 17th February 2022 at 10.00 am GMT. No further entries can be accepted after the tournament has begun.

Specific tournament rules:

This tournament will involve five rounds. Each round will last 14 days. The battles will be Medium-sized custom battles:
  1. Pas-de-Calais 1340 AD: Low Countries 1320-1414 AD with English (Continental) 1320-1349 AD allies vs French 1320-1349 AD. North European Agricultural. Open Battle.
  2. Picardy 1346 AD: English (Continental) 1320-1349 AD vs French 1320-1349 AD. North European Agricultural. English Defending (Can place Hastily-Dug Pits, which have the same defensive effect as Ditches).
  3. County Durham 1346 AD: English (Britain) 1320-1349 AD vs Scots (Britain) 1339-1402 AD. North European Agricultural. Open Battle.
  4. Normandy 1364 AD: Navarrese 1350-1378 AD vs French 1350-1399 AD. North European Agricultural. Open Battle.
  5. Normandy 1424 AD: English (Continental) 1415-1449 AD vs French 1400-1444 AD with Scots (Continental) 1418-1429 AD allies. North European Agricultural. Open Battle.
Games are paired, so each matchup will be played both ways. Each player will be able to choose his forces using the normal force selection system. In each round, all players will be playing on the same randomly generated map for both games.

First round pairings will be selected randomly, subsequent rounds using the Swiss Chess system. Nobody will play the same opponent in more than one round.

The scoring system is as follows:
  • If a game runs to the turn limit, each side scores points equal to the enemy % routed at the turn limit. If the game times out, adjustments may be made, depending on how far the game has progressed and who took longer over their turns – see below.
  • If one army breaks, the victorious player scores 60 points plus the difference between the enemy % routed and his own % routed. The loser scores points equal to the winner's % routed.
Examples:
  1. If Ben defeats Tamas's army, and has inflicted 45% routed on Tamas, and Tamas has inflicted 15% on Ben, Ben will score 60 + (45 – 15) = 90, Tamas will score 15.
  2. However, if Ben defeated Tamas’s army by inflicting 62% routed on Tamas, and Tamas had inflicted 56% routed on Ben, Ben would get 60 + (62 – 56) = 66 points, and Tamas would get 56.
  3. If the game is unfinished (or it reached the turn limit) with Ben inflicting 20% routed on Tamas, and Tamas inflicting 10% routed on Ben, Ben would score 20, and Tamas would score 10. (Provided that between them they have played at least 24 turns in all – see below).
Note that this system rewards aggressive play over desultory skirmishing. If you rout an enemy unit then hide for the rest of the game, both players will get extremely low scores - lower than if they played hard and lost.

Byes:

If an odd number of players sign up for the tournament, one player will get a bye in each round. In the first round this is random. In subsequent rounds it will be the player with the lowest score. The score for a BYE is 75 points for each game.

Round times and timing out:

Each round will last 14 days.

Any battles that are not completed by the end of the round will be timed out. The player who has had the game in his “My Turns” box the longest overall will be the one who is deemed to be timed out. This will not normally incur any penalties, unless insufficient turns have been played: If the timed-out player has played less than 18 turns, his score will be reduced proportionately, and his opponent will be granted the BYE score if it exceeds his current score. If the timed-out player has played less than 6 turns, he will not be included in the draw for the next round. This is to prevent someone else’s enjoyment being spoiled by being drawn against someone who has apparently dropped out of the tournament.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:06 pm
by grahamed
Hi Marco, getting a 404 error for the tourny, is it not up yet?

oh i just found it through the site and entered, but the link in this mail still points to a 404 error, might be worth checking if the link needs an update

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:17 pm
by rbodleyscott
Fixed link, thanks

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:12 am
by angusosborne
Ve signed up for this tournament (my first), but I don't have the Storm of Arrows DLC. Will I be able to play without it?

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:27 am
by rbodleyscott
angusosborne wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:12 am Ve signed up for this tournament (my first), but I don't have the Storm of Arrows DLC. Will I be able to play without it?
Yes
Anyone who has Field of Glory II Medieval can enter. You do not need to own any DLCs to enter.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:14 am
by angusosborne
Thank you. You even put it in bold at the top :roll:

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:52 pm
by tyronec
For round 2, how is the game scored if the English win but there have been zero losses for both sides ?

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:43 am
by rbodleyscott
tyronec wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:52 pm For round 2, how is the game scored if the English win but there have been zero losses for both sides ?
Good question. This is the first time we have used a defensive battle in the automated tournament system.

The current tournament scoring code means that if the game times out it would result in a 0:0 score. (i.e. Each side would get the enemy rout percentage)

This is something that needs discussion for the future:

See

viewtopic.php?f=623&t=108535

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:31 pm
by julianbarker
Shame this wasn't clear in advance. The in game text makes it look like one side needs to win, or the other side wins. Given that doing nothing gets my opponent 60, I very much doubt they will risk attacking me, which is completely against the in game text, which is clear that one side needs to attack.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:25 am
by rbodleyscott
julianbarker wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:31 pm Shame this wasn't clear in advance.
Agreed. It was an oversight.
The in game text makes it look like one side needs to win, or the other side wins. Given that doing nothing gets my opponent 60, I very much doubt they will risk attacking me, which is completely against the in game text, which is clear that one side needs to attack.
Doing nothing gets your opponent 0, not 60.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:47 pm
by julianbarker
Sorry, I misread your post in the other thread. Presumably if my opponent defaults on the clock I
I get 75 for both games. I only ask because for the second round in this tournament this looks like my outcome.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:06 am
by rbodleyscott
julianbarker wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:47 pm Sorry, I misread your post in the other thread. Presumably if my opponent defaults on the clock I
I get 75 for both games.
Yes

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:41 pm
by Ray552
There are errors on the Slitherine Hundred Years War tournament page:

https://www.slitherine.com/tournaments/scores/755

There are scores for players "X4A_Mazzi", currently in 7th place with 16 points (???), and "X4A_US_Mazzi", currently in 118th place with 55 points (39 + 16?) and a weird table formatting error.

Are these players actually the same person?

I've already notified Slitherine, but Paulo @ Slitherine replied that I should post tournament-related issues here.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:46 am
by rbodleyscott
Thanks,

I will pass this on to those in charge of the scores page.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:39 pm
by Redpossum
My opponent made me aware that there is a posted list of the battles in the five rounds.
So I went looking for the equivalent of this thread for the Ancients tournament, and I can't find it. I looked in the forums for FOG II I searched on "tourn" and "history" since it's called History of Spain and this thread mentions its "Hundred Years War" name in the title, and I just cannot find it. I realize it's almost certainly just error on my part, but could you please offer an url?

I am guessing it was probably in an email that I received when I signed up for the tourney, but I have searched my Inbox on both "Slitherine" and "PBEM" with no success.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:43 pm
by SnuggleBunnies
Redpossum wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:39 pm My opponent made me aware that there is a posted list of the battles in the five rounds.
So I went looking for the equivalent of this thread for the Ancients tournament, and I can't find it. I looked in the forums for FOG II I searched on "tourn" and "history" since it's called History of Spain and this thread mentions its "Hundred Years War" name in the title, and I just cannot find it. I realize it's almost certainly just error on my part, but could you please offer an url?

I am guessing it was probably in an email that I received when I signed up for the tourney, but I have searched my Inbox on both "Slitherine" and "PBEM" with no success.
https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewto ... 7&t=108341

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:17 pm
by Redpossum
SnuggleBunnies wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:43 pm
Redpossum wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:39 pm My opponent made me aware that there is a posted list of the battles in the five rounds.
So I went looking for the equivalent of this thread for the Ancients tournament, and I can't find it. I looked in the forums for FOG II I searched on "tourn" and "history" since it's called History of Spain and this thread mentions its "Hundred Years War" name in the title, and I just cannot find it. I realize it's almost certainly just error on my part, but could you please offer an url?

I am guessing it was probably in an email that I received when I signed up for the tourney, but I have searched my Inbox on both "Slitherine" and "PBEM" with no success.
https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewto ... 7&t=108341
Ahh, it wasn't in the Tournaments & Leagues subforum.

Thank you very much, SnuggleBunnies. Knowing the next battle will help me get ready, and I need all the help I can get!

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:23 pm
by Redpossum
And indeed it did make a huge difference! I'm happy to say I won both my games in the 3rd round of the Medieval tourney, as compared to only one victory in the first four games. Knowing what was coming, and practicing it against a friend really helped a lot.

Of course, the map is a big factor, and one cannot see that until the round actually begins, but just knowing the armies, and having played them against each other, seeing how the unit matchups work, these things are very helpful to a n00b like myself. I had never played either version of FOG against a human opponent when these two tourneys began.

The Slitherine PBEM system is a beauty, and the tournament is very well run. My hat's off in gratitude to those responsible.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:44 pm
by Redpossum
Now the tourney is over, I want to take a sec to say thank you to everyone involved.

To those who were my opponents, thank you ever so much for the fun games.

To those who organized the tourney, thank you for your hard work. I do appreciate it very much. It was both enjoyable and highly educational.

Re: Field of Glory II: Medieval - “Hundred Years War” Tournament

Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 6:03 am
by rbodleyscott
Redpossum wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:44 pm Now the tourney is over, I want to take a sec to say thank you to everyone involved.

To those who were my opponents, thank you ever so much for the fun games.

To those who organized the tourney, thank you for your hard work. I do appreciate it very much. It was both enjoyable and highly educational.
Thanks