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Too early? Covered under another name? I looked through the various lists and couldn't find any mention of them.



Mord.

Mord wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:56 pm Too early? Covered under another name? I looked through the various lists and couldn't find any mention of them.



Mord.

Saracen just means "muslim" , doesn't it? As far as hostile European medieval writers were concerned anyway.

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:16 pm
Saracen just means "muslim" , doesn't it? As far as hostile European medieval writers were concerned anyway.

I don't know. I always thought they were a culture.

Well, that's embarrassing!

Mord.

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:16 pm

Mord wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:56 pm Too early? Covered under another name? I looked through the various lists and couldn't find any mention of them.

Mord.

Saracen just means "muslim" , doesn't it? As far as hostile European medieval writers were concerned anyway.

+1

Saracen - Wikipedia

If you look in the Italo-Norman 1072-1154 and all three Sicilian lists, the Arab or Muslim ("Saracen") units in them were from Southern Italy and Sicily.

Light has been shined on another corner of my ignorance. Funny I was under that assumption all these years.
The saying that you learn something new everyday gets truer and truer the older I get. Thanks for the enlightenment.


Mord.

A Google Books link to a chapter from Joseph Birk's Norman Kings of Sicily and the Rise of the Anti-Islamic Critique: Baptized Sultans

"Chapter 2: Saracen Soldiers: Muslim Participation in Norman Military Expeditions"

And on the flip side, there were Christian mercenaries (farfanes) in Muslim service, the most well-known being El Cid.