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Land Mines

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:04 am
by terminator
I find minefields difficult to distinguish on the ground because they are too small. At the beginning of the game, the minefields were easier to see because larger.

Screenshot with max zoom, red signs could be larger, for example :

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Re: Land Mines

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:54 pm
by Patrick Ward
Yup, fair call. They're somewhat of a compromise due to the editor not storing rotations. They have to look reasonable even when their local orientation makes no sense. But I'll look to making them clearer.

Pat

Re: Land Mines

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:20 am
by terminator
if I remember correctly at the beginning the land mines had a larger size then during a beta the size of the land mines was reduced.

Re: Land Mines

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:22 pm
by Patrick Ward
terminator wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:20 am if I remember correctly at the beginning the land mines had a larger size then during a beta the size of the land mines was reduced.
Yes, because beta testing was also the first time I'd seen any of the scenarios, saw how the designers were using the minefields and all the rest of the terrain. It was quite clear that many things were not fit for purpose and had to be tweaked to account for situations I'd simply never considered.

( The minen signs were enlarged and theres more of them at more varied angles, there are more mine fields per hex so theres more chance they'll be in some clear terrain and so provide higher contrast, they also work with a higher mixture of terrain. )

But that was several years ago and as I said, I agree and I might revisit them at some point. Since then we've a ton of extra terrain that wasn't accounted for.

P

Re: Land Mines

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:13 pm
by Edmon
Patrick Ward wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:22 pm
terminator wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:20 am if I remember correctly at the beginning the land mines had a larger size then during a beta the size of the land mines was reduced.
Yes, because beta testing was also the first time I'd seen any of the scenarios, saw how the designers were using the minefields and all the rest of the terrain. It was quite clear that many things were not fit for purpose and had to be tweaked to account for situations I'd simply never considered.

( The minen signs were enlarged and theres more of them at more varied angles, there are more mine fields per hex so theres more chance they'll be in some clear terrain and so provide higher contrast, they also work with a higher mixture of terrain. )

But that was several years ago and as I said, I agree and I might revisit them at some point. Since then we've a ton of extra terrain that wasn't accounted for.

P
It's a miner change.

Re: Land Mines

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:39 pm
by Patrick Ward
Edmon wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:13 pm
Patrick Ward wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:22 pm
terminator wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:20 am if I remember correctly at the beginning the land mines had a larger size then during a beta the size of the land mines was reduced.
Yes, because beta testing was also the first time I'd seen any of the scenarios, saw how the designers were using the minefields and all the rest of the terrain. It was quite clear that many things were not fit for purpose and had to be tweaked to account for situations I'd simply never considered.

( The minen signs were enlarged and theres more of them at more varied angles, there are more mine fields per hex so theres more chance they'll be in some clear terrain and so provide higher contrast, they also work with a higher mixture of terrain. )

But that was several years ago and as I said, I agree and I might revisit them at some point. Since then we've a ton of extra terrain that wasn't accounted for.

P
It's a miner change.
Stop that!! No funny business allowed around here. :D

Re: Land Mines

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:55 pm
by terminator
I found in my archives what seems to be the very first model of Land mines :


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Re: Land Mines

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:33 am
by adiekmann
terminator wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:55 pm I found in my archives what seems to be the very first model of Land mines :



Land Mine(old).jpg
No, that's a mine garden where they cultivate mines for future use. :wink: