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Light Lancers have no effect

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:46 pm
by KiwiWarlord
HI RBS, Light lancers charge down hill into the flank of Disrupted Melee Pistol Horse engaged in melee with Foot.
One would think that the Lancers should get Lance +100 POA as the Horse are in melee and being charged in the Flank ?
Sorry the combat report blurs the protagonists somewhat but you should be able to make them out.
Thanks
Brian
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Re: Light Lancers have no effect

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:39 am
by rbodleyscott
The game does not appear to be treating this as a flank attack. Did the lancers start their turn behind the flank?

Re: Light Lancers have no effect

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:08 pm
by KiwiWarlord
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:39 am The game does not appear to be treating this as a flank attack. Did the lancers start their turn behind the flank?
Yes, they were atop the hill. The scenario is Auldearn.

Re: Light Lancers have no effect

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:04 pm
by KiwiWarlord
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:39 am The game does not appear to be treating this as a flank attack. Did the lancers start their turn behind the flank?
Sorry Richard, my question was a little vague.
The question is " The Light Horse Lancers charge down hill into the flank of an already engaged unit of Horse, heavily engaged in melee & Disrupted, yet get no charge POA against the Impact Pistol who are now using their Melee Pistol" ?

One would think that in reality the Lancers would have couched lances at impact thus should be at +100 POA.

The Rulebook states that Light Lance does not get any POA against Impact Pistol, which is understandable in a head-on charge but not against a disrupted unit hit in the flank whilst engaged in Melee against another unit.

I'm suggesting the Rules need a tweek.
Thanks
Brian

Re: Light Lancers have no effect

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:37 am
by rbodleyscott
KiwiWarlord wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:04 pm
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:39 am The game does not appear to be treating this as a flank attack. Did the lancers start their turn behind the flank?
Sorry Richard, my question was a little vague.
The question is " The Light Horse Lancers charge down hill into the flank of an already engaged unit of Horse, heavily engaged in melee & Disrupted, yet get no charge POA against the Impact Pistol who are now using their Melee Pistol" ?

One would think that in reality the Lancers would have couched lances at impact thus should be at +100 POA.

The Rulebook states that Light Lance does not get any POA against Impact Pistol, which is understandable in a head-on charge but not against a disrupted unit hit in the flank whilst engaged in Melee against another unit.

I'm suggesting the Rules need a tweek.
Thanks
Brian
My point was that this does not appear to qualify as a flank attack. If it did, the light lancers would be on an overall net +50 POA, and the Disrupted horse would have a further -26% for being Disrupted.

You are asking for the light lancers to benefit from making a flank attack when they have not satisfied the conditions for a flank attack.

Re: Light Lancers have no effect

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:07 am
by KiwiWarlord
rbodleyscott wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:37 am You are asking for the light lancers to benefit from making a flank attack when they have not satisfied the conditions for a flank attack.
OK I must have not noted the starting point of the charge correctly, apologies.
Thanks