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New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:18 pm
by nyczar
RBS or others,

the new patch in FOG Medieval says that for ZOCs and Permitted Charges:

A unit that is in the primary ZOC of one or more enemy units could already charge any of those within a 45 degree arc of the unit’s front. It can now also charge an enemy unit in the square directly to its front if it is in that unit's secondary ZOC. This is intended to remove the deliberate or inadvertent contact-delaying effect of each unit in a line of units turning to face diagonally.

Is this being applied to Ancients? if not, please share the reasons.

Thanks.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:31 pm
by SnuggleBunnies
nyczar wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:18 pm RBS or others,

the new patch in FOG Medieval says that for ZOCs and Permitted Charges:

A unit that is in the primary ZOC of one or more enemy units could already charge any of those within a 45 degree arc of the unit’s front. It can now also charge an enemy unit in the square directly to its front if it is in that unit's secondary ZOC. This is intended to remove the deliberate or inadvertent contact-delaying effect of each unit in a line of units turning to face diagonally.

Is this being applied to Ancients? if not, please share the reasons.

Thanks.
Yes. See: https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewto ... 4&t=106718

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:41 pm
by nyczar
Thanks,
Any idea on when the beta will go live?

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:00 pm
by Paul59
nyczar wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:41 pm Thanks,
Any idea on when the beta will go live?
Isn't it already available? Manickennel's post and link is dated 18th August.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:08 am
by nyczar
On the 23 I got patch notes update for Medieval bit nothing for Ancients. That's why I asked.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:30 am
by Athos1660
nyczar wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:08 am On the 23 I got patch notes update for Medieval bit nothing for Ancients. That's why I asked.
As Manickennel's post says :
You can download the Slitherine version here, or if Steam is more your thing, then you will find the game on the openbeta branch (no password required).
I did. It works.

PS : You may not be aware that atm this is a (optional, downloadable) beta for FoG2:Ancients, not an (automatic) update. The latest update dates back to March 2021 while this beta has been available since August.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:44 am
by nyczar
Well that may confuse things more for competitive play if one has this patch downloaded and another does not, I would think. I don't intend to download anything that isn't "official" yet. Makes sense to me that a gameplay change so fundamental would be applied to all FOG versions concurrently.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:44 am
by SnuggleBunnies
nyczar wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:44 am Well that may confuse things more for competitive play if one has this patch downloaded and another does not, I would think. I don't intend to download anything that isn't "official" yet. Makes sense to me that a gameplay change so fundamental would be applied to all FOG versions concurrently.
You can't play people in MP with a different patch, so not a problem.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:41 pm
by TheGrayMouser
nyczar wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:44 am Well that may confuse things more for competitive play if one has this patch downloaded and another does not, I would think. I don't intend to download anything that isn't "official" yet. Makes sense to me that a gameplay change so fundamental would be applied to all FOG versions concurrently.
It’s not a beta patch, but a full install that runs parallel to your main build so you can test and provide feedback on the changes, before it becomes an official patch.

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:45 pm
by deeter
I would like to adopt it for competitive ancients now if it fixes the diagonal deployment exploit.

Deeter

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:42 am
by rbodleyscott
The plan is to release the update after the forthcoming FOG2DL and World Team Championships have ended, to avoid disrupting any of the games. (i.e. After 10th January and before 1st February)

Re: New ZOC Medieval rules; will FOG Ancients be updated?

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:09 pm
by nyczar
Thanks RBS for the definitive word.