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What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:34 am
by BaronVonKrieg
So has anyone played ao1942 with galland in core, what is diffrent to when you realese him in 1941 ?

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:16 pm
by Tassadar
I have not yet played 1942 without Galland, but with him in the core so far things seem to progress without any acknowledgement of this fact. There are no special events nor penalties.

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:30 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
Tassadar wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:16 pm I have not yet played 1942 without Galland, but with him in the core so far things seem to progress without any acknowledgement of this fact. There are no special events nor penalties.
yeah i dont have a save where i didnt realese him and im coward to try that, mby you cant play operation cerberus ?

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:42 pm
by Tassadar
No, there is no such Impact. I have Galland in my core and I played Cerberus just fine.

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:13 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
Tassadar wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:42 pm No, there is no such Impact. I have Galland in my core and I played Cerberus just fine.
so you just lose a hero for nothing ?

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:16 pm
by Tassadar
100 Bf 109G parts early, plus the historical accuracy for those who want as much of it as possible. :)

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:22 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
Tassadar wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:16 pm 100 Bf 109G parts early, plus the historical accuracy for those who want as much of it as possible. :)
i mean if you can have galland flying for you and still being a general of fighters i see that as a win win scenario

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:29 pm
by adiekmann
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:22 pm
Tassadar wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:16 pm 100 Bf 109G parts early, plus the historical accuracy for those who want as much of it as possible. :)
i mean if you can have galland flying for you and still being a general of fighters i see that as a win win scenario
From what I know right now, I strongly feel that they should have forced Galland from your core, and at the same time awarded you a replacement unique fighter hero with similar (or same) attributes.

"...I understand losing such a capable officer as Major Galland is disappointing, but we think you will be pleased with his replacement, Major __________ as well."

That way you don't "lose" a hero, you're just replacing him and it keeps the narrative historically accurate without "weakening" your core.

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:46 am
by BaronVonKrieg
adiekmann wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:29 pm
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:22 pm
Tassadar wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:16 pm 100 Bf 109G parts early, plus the historical accuracy for those who want as much of it as possible. :)
i mean if you can have galland flying for you and still being a general of fighters i see that as a win win scenario
From what I know right now, I strongly feel that they should have forced Galland from your core, and at the same time awarded you a replacement unique fighter hero with similar (or same) attributes.

"...I understand losing such a capable officer as Major Galland is disappointing, but we think you will be pleased with his replacement, Major __________ as well."

That way you don't "lose" a hero, you're just replacing him and it keeps the narrative historically accurate without "weakening" your core.
Major Erich Hartmann would do nicely :!:

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:51 am
by adiekmann
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:46 am
adiekmann wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:29 pm
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:22 pm

i mean if you can have galland flying for you and still being a general of fighters i see that as a win win scenario
From what I know right now, I strongly feel that they should have forced Galland from your core, and at the same time awarded you a replacement unique fighter hero with similar (or same) attributes.

"...I understand losing such a capable officer as Major Galland is disappointing, but we think you will be pleased with his replacement, Major __________ as well."

That way you don't "lose" a hero, you're just replacing him and it keeps the narrative historically accurate without "weakening" your core.
Major Erich Hartmann would do nicely :!:
Yeah, I was secretly hoping that we'd get him before AO42 released. However, he began his combat career in '42, so in AO41 would have been too early (historically). But there are plenty of others to choose from...

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm
by CaesarCzech
that or if you released him you get Hartmann since Galland pushed for it.

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:09 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
CaesarCzech wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm that or if you released him you get Hartmann since Galland pushed for it.
i get the thing where they want to skip some people for political reasons, but what always puzzled me was why wasnt kurt knipsel never introduced.

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:54 pm
by adiekmann
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:09 pm
CaesarCzech wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm that or if you released him you get Hartmann since Galland pushed for it.
i get the thing where they want to skip some people for political reasons, but what always puzzled me was why wasnt kurt knipsel never introduced.
Boy, you guys keep saying what I was thinking/hoping before AO42 was released. I was wondering who/what the 2 new unique heroes were going to be in this DLC. The two that I would have bet on, or hoped for, is a fighter hero (to replace Galland) and a tank hero, specifically Knipsel. Instead we got 2(!) of AT/AA heroes (and it remains to be seen if we still get both once the patch is applied), and young Manstein. We are half way through AO and we still have only one unique tank hero. I find that surprising. Some of this is based on the GC in PC1.

BTW, what special bonuses would you have given a Knispel unique hero?

Re: What changes if

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:27 pm
by PaxusZero
Tank Destroyer or (+5 soft attack)

Vigilant or Phased Movement

No Retaiation or First Strike

Re: What changes if

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:54 am
by Bee1976
adiekmann wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:54 pm
BTW, what special bonuses would you have given a Knispel unique hero?
+3 Attack (both soft and hard)
+2 Movement
readiness
and that +5 when defeding hero trait

Re: What changes if

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:27 am
by BaronVonKrieg
adiekmann wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:54 pm
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:09 pm
CaesarCzech wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm that or if you released him you get Hartmann since Galland pushed for it.
i get the thing where they want to skip some people for political reasons, but what always puzzled me was why wasnt kurt knipsel never introduced.
Boy, you guys keep saying what I was thinking/hoping before AO42 was released. I was wondering who/what the 2 new unique heroes were going to be in this DLC. The two that I would have bet on, or hoped for, is a fighter hero (to replace Galland) and a tank hero, specifically Knipsel. Instead we got 2(!) of AT/AA heroes (and it remains to be seen if we still get both once the patch is applied), and young Manstein. We are half way through AO and we still have only one unique tank hero. I find that surprising. Some of this is based on the GC in PC1.

BTW, what special bonuses would you have given a Knispel unique hero?
he should get unique bonus something named like Panzer Ace with high AT

Re: What changes if

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:51 am
by adiekmann
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:27 am
adiekmann wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:54 pm
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:09 pm

i get the thing where they want to skip some people for political reasons, but what always puzzled me was why wasnt kurt knipsel never introduced.
Boy, you guys keep saying what I was thinking/hoping before AO42 was released. I was wondering who/what the 2 new unique heroes were going to be in this DLC. The two that I would have bet on, or hoped for, is a fighter hero (to replace Galland) and a tank hero, specifically Knipsel. Instead we got 2(!) of AT/AA heroes (and it remains to be seen if we still get both once the patch is applied), and young Manstein. We are half way through AO and we still have only one unique tank hero. I find that surprising. Some of this is based on the GC in PC1.

BTW, what special bonuses would you have given a Knispel unique hero?
he should get unique bonus something named like Panzer Ace with high AT
Needs to be something that's different from Albert Kerscher...

I would propose something like this:

+3-5 Soft and Hard Attack
+1 Speed
Precision Weapon
Phased Movement

Re: What changes if

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:01 am
by CaesarCzech
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:09 pm
CaesarCzech wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm that or if you released him you get Hartmann since Galland pushed for it.
i get the thing where they want to skip some people for political reasons, but what always puzzled me was why wasnt kurt knipsel never introduced.
I mean wasnt Knispel in trouble because he intervened to stop abuse of Soviet POW ? and at Oswec he passed on opportunity to easily destroy soviet convoy because soviets were escorting civilians. Like i dont get why they dont put him there.

Re: What changes if

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:02 am
by BaronVonKrieg
adiekmann wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:51 am
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:27 am
adiekmann wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:54 pm

Boy, you guys keep saying what I was thinking/hoping before AO42 was released. I was wondering who/what the 2 new unique heroes were going to be in this DLC. The two that I would have bet on, or hoped for, is a fighter hero (to replace Galland) and a tank hero, specifically Knipsel. Instead we got 2(!) of AT/AA heroes (and it remains to be seen if we still get both once the patch is applied), and young Manstein. We are half way through AO and we still have only one unique tank hero. I find that surprising. Some of this is based on the GC in PC1.

BTW, what special bonuses would you have given a Knispel unique hero?
he should get unique bonus something named like Panzer Ace with high AT
Needs to be something that's different from Albert Kerscher...

I would propose something like this:

+3-5 Soft and Hard Attack
+1 Speed
Precision Weapon
Phased Movement
So Panzer Ace that grants somthing like 7 HA
Battle proven that grants 7 SA

He is Ace of Aces after all, i forgot tank killer is that high

Re: What changes if

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:06 am
by BaronVonKrieg
CaesarCzech wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:01 am
BaronVonKrieg wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:09 pm
CaesarCzech wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm that or if you released him you get Hartmann since Galland pushed for it.
i get the thing where they want to skip some people for political reasons, but what always puzzled me was why wasnt kurt knipsel never introduced.
I mean wasnt Knispel in trouble because he intervened to stop abuse of Soviet POW ? and at Oswec he passed on opportunity to easily destroy soviet convoy because soviets were escorting civilians. Like i dont get why they dont put him there.
yeah i get why they woulnd want Michael Wittmann, but krut thats a puzzle