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Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:34 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:45 pm
by GUNDOBALDO08
Wow! I’ll try soon
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:52 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:45 pm
Wow! I’ll try soon
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:59 pm
by VirgilInTheSKY
I noticed this Panter(P) when checking the unit csv, it was added in this update.
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:06 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:59 pm
I noticed this Panter(P) when checking the unit csv, it was added in this update.
also judging by the in game model it is VK30.01(D) why call it panther (p) usually p is for porche, but here mby it stands for prototype ?
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:52 pm
by FunPolice749
Both that Panther P and a Panther IVH are in the game set to become available on August 1943. Although the IVH is super weird as it has a whopping 4 soft attack and is otherwise like a regular panther. I'm thinking these are either units for the next AO or there may be a secret we haven't found yet.
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:56 pm
by PaxusZero
I also picked some up with industry connections. Sadly, like the Tiger (P), it has lower defenses than its counterpart. Still a good tank though.
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:07 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:52 pm
Both that Panther P and a Panther IVH are in the game set to become available on August 1943. Although the IVH is super weird as it has a whopping 4 soft attack and is otherwise like a regular panther. I'm thinking these are either units for the next AO or there may be a secret we haven't found yet.
ive read about panther IVH, it was command vehicle, gun didnt work they took out the breach for more room, so it makes sense that it doesnt have that much attack
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:01 pm
by Patrick Ward
BaronVonKrieg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:06 pm
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:59 pm
I noticed this Panter(P) when checking the unit csv, it was added in this update.
also judging by the in game model it is VK30.01(D) why call it panther (p) usually p is for porche, but here mby it stands for prototype ?
VK = German abreviation for prototype
30 = 30 ton
.01 = first variation
D = Daimler-Benz
Panther (P) in game simply because the designer wanted to emphasise it was 'a' prototype of the Panther. ie. the Panther series didn't really start until the MAN version went into production.
FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:52 pm
Both that Panther P and a Panther IVH are in the game set to become available on August 1943. Although the IVH is super weird as it has a whopping 4 soft attack and is otherwise like a regular panther. I'm thinking these are either units for the next AO or there may be a secret we haven't found yet.
Yes. The Panther IVH is a command vehicle that was made from spare Panther A chassis ( or Bergepanther ) with a Panzer IVH turret welded in place with its main guns workings removed. So its only armament is its hull mounted mg.
(P)at
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:19 pm
by BaronVonKrieg
Patrick Ward wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:01 pm
BaronVonKrieg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:06 pm
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:59 pm
I noticed this Panter(P) when checking the unit csv, it was added in this update.
also judging by the in game model it is VK30.01(D) why call it panther (p) usually p is for porche, but here mby it stands for prototype ?
VK = German abreviation for prototype
30 = 30 ton
.01 = first variation
D = Daimler-Benz
Panther (P) in game simply because the designer wanted to emphasise it was 'a' prototype of the Panther. ie. the Panther series didn't really start until the MAN version went into production.
FunPolice749 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:52 pm
Both that Panther P and a Panther IVH are in the game set to become available on August 1943. Although the IVH is super weird as it has a whopping 4 soft attack and is otherwise like a regular panther. I'm thinking these are either units for the next AO or there may be a secret we haven't found yet.
Yes. The Panther IVH is a command vehicle that was made from spare Panther A chassis ( or Bergepanther ) with a Panzer IVH turret welded in place with its main guns workings removed. So its only armament is its hull mounted mg.
(P)at
yes yes im acquainted with that, thanks for joining in on the discussion !
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:32 am
by terminator
What’s the point of the Panther IVH ? I feel like I have wasted my prestige points with this unit ? I find no use for this unit...
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:03 am
by VirgilInTheSKY
terminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:32 am
What’s the point of the
Panther IVH ? I feel like I have wasted my prestige points with this unit ? I find no use for this unit...
I think you are not supposed to get it in your forces. Much more like a unit made for a specific scenario.
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:00 am
by terminator
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:03 am
terminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:32 am
What’s the point of the
Panther IVH ? I feel like I have wasted my prestige points with this unit ? I find no use for this unit...
I think you are not supposed to get it in your forces. Much more like a unit made for a specific scenario.
But I can purchase the
Panther IVH in the Salerno scenario...
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Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:25 am
by VirgilInTheSKY
terminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:00 am
VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:03 am
terminator wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:32 am
What’s the point of the
Panther IVH ? I feel like I have wasted my prestige points with this unit ? I find no use for this unit...
I think you are not supposed to get it in your forces. Much more like a unit made for a specific scenario.
But I can purchase the
Panther IVH in the Salerno scenario...
Salerno.jpg
Looks like a miss when writing unit files for me. TigerP, PantherP and PantherIV were added together with AO 42 update, and since the first two are obviously prototype units when you consider their historical production, it could be that they forgot to add NoPurchase for these units. Another unit added the same time, SU-76i, also simply copied available year and Open Top trait from the existing SU-76, while this unit was actually enclosed.
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
by scorehouse
above it says in the base game then "upcoming DLC" and update also. so is there a base game update for these units or DLC update or both?
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:22 am
by dalfrede
scorehouse wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
above it says in the base game then "upcoming DLC" and update also. so is there a base game update for these units or DLC update or both?
Most unit updates are for the DLCs that use them.
All unit updates apply to the base game.
This is the standard practice for the PzC series.
The DLCs 'pay' for the updates, then modders and others can use the new units as desired.
Re: Anybody notice this?
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:06 am
by jeannot le lapin
scorehouse wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
above it says in the base game then "upcoming DLC" and update also. so is there a base game update for these units or DLC update or both?
With updates and new dlcs, changes may affect the main campaign or previous dlcs. It is then necessary to make adaptations of the previous scenarios...
