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Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 4:32 pm
by Rahtgaz
Very excited! Thank you Slitherine!
Obvious first question, I guess:
Will Seravy participate in this project? I understand you gave this up to MuHa. Great choice! But will he be involved too? And in what capacity?
Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:26 am
by Blake00
Last time I asked Seravy he said he had no idea what was going on at Slitherine with the new MoM game. Although he did say that if he did know then he wouldn't break their trust and tell me anyway hahaha.
But yeah I get the feeling he's not involved at all.
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Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:15 pm
by ribogushter
Idk... I think they should have just taken COM 1 or 2, slapped new graphics, and call it a win...
Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 4:20 am
by Blake00
ribogushter wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:15 pm
Idk... I think they should have just taken COM 1 or 2, slapped new graphics, and call it a win...
Seravy has confirmed over on the
MoM fan discord this week that's he's not directly involved. They've contacted him a few times for advice on AI which is good but yeah I wouldn't hold your breath on CoM features, especially as Seravy spent like 15 or so years pulling apart Mom making countless little changes here and there.
A lot of people prefer CoM but there's actually also a lot of people who don't and hate some of the changes (I manage a number of MoM fan communities so I see it all!). So it's probably much safer option to base a MoM remake on the original with a few quality of life improvements and then do a separate CoM addon. Everyone gets what they want and Slitherine make more money out of it haha.
Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 5:14 am
by ribogushter
Blake00 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:20 am
ribogushter wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:15 pm
Idk... I think they should have just taken COM 1 or 2, slapped new graphics, and call it a win...
Seravy has confirmed over on the
MoM fan discord this week that's he's not directly involved. They've contacted him a few times for advice on AI which is good but yeah I wouldn't hold your breath on CoM features, especially as Seravy spent like 15 or so years pulling apart Mom making countless little changes here and there.
A lot of people prefer CoM but there's actually also a lot of people who don't and hate some of the changes (I manage a number of MoM fan communities so I see it all!). So it's probably much safer option to base a MoM remake on the original with a few quality of life improvements and then do a separate CoM addon. Everyone gets what they want and Slitherine make more money out of it haha.
Yeah, to each their own I guess... For me, after I got into COM, I haven't looked back. Similarly with XCOM2 and XCOM2 Long War - I wouldn't touch the former and think the latter is one of the greatest things made ever
But I didn't mean my comment in this way, that COM is superior. I meant that it has been polished to the max, and there is really nothing left but to update the graphics. Not sure of the state of MOM actually, to be able to compare.
And I think the spirit of MOM is the same as the spirit of COM. Now with new MOM being hexes, not so sure if the spirit will be there... (although I get the reasoning) But we'll see
Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 6:00 am
by Blake00
I just found this on the MuHa discord. Glad to hear they've seen my super wishlist threads here. We've got an official response from them about CoM and Seravy too:
Yuuki
there are soo many questions so sorry if we don't answer much
, but I have seen questions about com and Seravy etc. we have asked the master for some help with ai, for which khash was very grateful, and in the future we will likely reach out more, his opinion is of course very important to us, but it is too early in the dev process to get outside involvement. (oh and yes, we have read all of the wishlists before we started, i think there was a question about that too) But anyway, I'd like to also state here again that our current design goals are to recreate the original (we have played com a lot too, some some improvements will surely be inspired by it as well) we plan to have extended modding tools, and after that we will see what we can add in dlc's. Anyway, that's some questions answered, I hope
hit me with an @ for any burning ones I missed
Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 3:37 pm
by CustodianV131
They take in the info and communicate, but in the end they are the devs making their game. Sounds like a good balance to me.
We all know that whatever the resulting game will be, not everyone is going to be happy. Hopefully most of us will be though.
Looking forward to following the development. MuHa has a good track record with Thea 1 & 2, I'm expecting them to do a good job with the MOM remake.
A Caster of Magic DLC sounds like a fun idea. Although a DLC inspired by the Slavic mythology they did so well in Thea 1 & 2 would also be really something I would like to see.
Re: Will Seravy participate in the project?
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:04 pm
by Klydon
One of the biggest issues with this project is that MoM is such a classic and bench mark game from the past, it will be near impossible for Muha to meet the extremely high expectations many will have for this new version.
I think Muha will do a good job with it. I have the first Thea and it is pretty good.
I have a bad feeling this is going to be like one of those movies that all you heard about was how great it was and you show up to watch it and while it might be pretty good, it just didn't measure up to the expectations you had. Hopefully I am wrong because like a lot of people, MoM is one of my all time favorites. Just a shame that SimTex wasn't around very long. They hit two monster home runs with both MoM and MOO.