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Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:15 am
by dalfrede
I attached an Overrun Hero and looked at Awards.
The unit already had 4 overruns.
Apparently the game keeps track of overruns even if the unit can't overrun.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:21 am
by Scrapulous
That's huge! Thanks for sharing, dalfrede. It means you don't need to wait for the hero before you start working toward Steamroller. I wasted so much time!!

Also, I'm totally into the idea of an overrum hero :)

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:23 am
by Vorskl
dalfrede wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:15 am I attached an Overrun Hero and looked at Awards.
The unit already had 4 overruns.
Apparently the game keeps track of overruns even if the unit can't overrun.
which unit did you assign it to ?

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:32 am
by adiekmann
Scrapulous wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:21 am That's huge! Thanks for sharing, dalfrede. It means you don't need to wait for the hero before you start working toward Steamroller. I wasted so much time!!

Also, I'm totally into the idea of an overrum hero :)
No, I think you misunderstood. It does keep track of how many overrun kills you have even after you remove the Overrun hero. However, you will NOT be able to collect/do overrun kills without that hero (except for tanks of course) UNTIL you achieve the 25 kills to earn Steamroller. If you later return the Overrun hero, you don't start at zero again, but continue from however many you did earlier. In fact, if you remove the hero before you achieve Steamroller, look at the Awards and Steamroller doesn't even show! Return the Overrun hero and you'll see it again WITH however many overrun kills you had achieved previously. Hope that clarifies things.

In my recent playthroughs I am working on trying to get Steamroller all all of my frontline infantry units. I used to look down about that hero think it has very limited benefit outside of tanks. Boy was I wrong! It is very powerful to have on infantry and I even got steamroller on one of my recon units in Spain. :D

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:05 am
by Tassadar
adiekmann wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:32 am In my recent playthroughs I am working on trying to get Steamroller all all of my frontline infantry units. I used to look down about that hero think it has very limited benefit outside of tanks. Boy was I wrong! It is very powerful to have on infantry and I even got steamroller on one of my recon units in Spain. :D
I'm a huge fan of Overrun on recons - it saves tons of time dealing with those pesky 1-2-3 power stacks that remain on the battlefield and tend to replace losses next turn. It really saves time and allows to focus tank usage elsewhere - sure, tanks could do the overrun as well, but especially in 1941 this means they might get into trouble and too close to powerful enemy units.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:19 pm
by crawdaddyo
I'm a huge fan of the Overscotch hero myself. Usually with a couple of ice cubes. :!:

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:09 pm
by Edmon
I actually know some very cool tricks with overrun.

I think this will be my next guide video...

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:47 pm
by sakura006
Edmon wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:09 pm I actually know some very cool tricks with overrun.

I think this will be my next guide video...

I really think overrun is a game changer. The steamroller effect is just too strong that should be nerfed.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:30 pm
by Scrapulous
adiekmann wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:32 am No, I think you misunderstood.
There's a first time for everything! ;)

I see what you're saying. I interpreted dalfrede as saying that the game tracks combat outcomes that would have resulted in an overrun, regardless of whether the unit is capable of delivering one, and stores them in the Steamroller qualification counter. It sounds like you're saying that the counter only increments if the unit has the Overrun trait natively or a hero that grants it, and that dalfrede's news is just that the counter isn't reset if you reassign the hero before winning the award. If I have some time later today I might do some testing to find out for sure.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:06 pm
by adiekmann
Scrapulous wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:30 pm
adiekmann wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:32 am No, I think you misunderstood.
There's a first time for everything! ;)

I see what you're saying. I interpreted dalfrede as saying that the game tracks combat outcomes that would have resulted in an overrun, regardless of whether the unit is capable of delivering one, and stores them in the Steamroller qualification counter. It sounds like you're saying that the counter only increments if the unit has the Overrun trait natively or a hero that grants it, and that dalfrede's news is just that the counter isn't reset if you reassign the hero before winning the award. If I have some time later today I might do some testing to find out for sure.
Yes, you got it now.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:39 pm
by Bee1976
sakura006 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:47 pm The steamroller effect is just too strong that should be nerfed.
Well, it mostly effects singleplayer, so i dont think its needed to nerf steamroller.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:28 am
by Vorskl
A trick for getting a fast Steamroller on Infantry: place the Overrun hero on an overstrengthen Engineer in the maps with plenty of minefields. At Thermopylae alone I 'harvested' 8 or 9 various kills, mostly mines.

P.S. As much as I like it, I think Steamroller should only be applicable to the Tanks.

Re: Overrum Hero

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:51 am
by adiekmann
Vorskl wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:28 am A trick for getting a fast Steamroller on Infantry: place the Overrun hero on an overstrengthen Engineer in the maps with plenty of minefields. At Thermopylae alone I 'harvested' 8 or 9 various kills, mostly mines.

P.S. As much as I like it, I think Steamroller should only be applicable to the Tanks.
I have to admit, I totally agree with you here. On my last complete playthrough I had 3 Overrun heroes and in addition to tanks had earned Steamroller on five different infantry unit in addition to 2 Recon units. Moscow wasn't that much of a challenge any longer... :shock: Any yes, I purposely stocked up at Thermopylae too!