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Add mortar units?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:34 am
by Dux Limitis
Mortars are basic infantry support weapons,could the game add mortar units(up to 120mm or bigger)？Then player can make them up with the field guns to provide cheap fire support for the infantry units.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:33 am
by jeannot le lapin
Heavy Infantry Unit could switch to mortar as in Order of Battle WW2 ?
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:20 am
by Dux Limitis
jeannot le lapin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:33 am
Heavy Infantry Unit could switch to mortar as in Order of Battle WW2 ?
Better split them off.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:23 am
by Tassadar
Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:20 am
jeannot le lapin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:33 am
Heavy Infantry Unit could switch to mortar as in Order of Battle WW2 ?
Better split them off.
Actually, this could give players a bigger reason to use heavy infantry over Pioneers, since as it is currently, the ability to ignore entrenchment is vastly superior to the combat stats of heavy infantry in almost every circumstance.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:05 am
by NeyLutzow
If this ideia becomes a reality i think the mortar unit should have the same range as a stug(1 range).
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:01 pm
by Dux Limitis
NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:05 am
If this ideia becomes a reality i think the mortar unit should have the same range as a stug(1 range).
I think so.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:49 pm
by funat
IMO mortars are part of infantry, so I don't see the benefit of splitting it.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:03 pm
by NeyLutzow
funat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:49 pm
IMO mortars are part of infantry, so I don't see the benefit of splitting it.
I agree with this. But like i said before in case its added it should have a range of 1. I played some panzer corps 1 mods that had new units including 120mm mortars and they had a range of 2 that was so weird because a bunch of artilleries had range of 2. I don't really know if a 120mm mortar is capable in real life to have a range equal to a 10.5cm heavy weapon but in game terms was weird.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:14 pm
by funat
NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:03 pm
funat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:49 pm
IMO mortars are part of infantry, so I don't see the benefit of splitting it.
I agree with this. But like i said before in case its added it should have a range of 1. I played some panzer corps 1 mods that had new units including 120mm mortars and they had a range of 2 that was so weird because a bunch of artilleries had range of 2. I don't really know if a 120mm mortar is capable in real life to have a range equal to a 10.5cm heavy weapon but in game terms was weird.
It all depends on how granular we go. Are we looking at a detachment level - where mortar detachment would make sense. Or we are looking at a regiment to brigade level (which is the closest IMO in PC). If so - then mortars make as much sense as cooks or medics. Also how would they be used? It would become a clickfest when combined with standard arty - effectively destroying the flow of play.
Re: Add mortar units?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:27 pm
by Scrapulous
jeannot le lapin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:33 am
Heavy Infantry Unit could switch to mortar as in Order of Battle WW2 ?
I quite like this idea.