Slitherine

I am playing a game where a couple of interesting fallbacks happened. First one, my opponent fell back with a fragmented Imitation Legionaries unit. There was a sub-general nearby. The unit didn't break. I just wondered what the chances were of that unit breaking?

In the same game, I fell back with my Thureophoroi and they dropped two cohesion levels to fragmented. What are the chances of that happening? Does it depend on the unit quality as well?

I think, it is random. Bad luck. Everytime i choose to fall back, i pray not to drop cohesion level.

I suspect there is some % chance involved.. will find out.

SnuggleBunnies wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:55 pm https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... =735499412

Thanks, Bunny! I am talking to edb1815 and he has provided some good info like your link. I will post as well..

The only thing I don't see are the chances for a double drop!

Notes:

So looking at the manual: Frag is -2, Threatened flank is -1, 25% losses -1, 50% losses -1, Hvy foot +1, General within 4 sq +1. 6 needed to pass on 2 dice. Pretty close to TT game. So pike unit with a general would be evens depending on flanks and casualties. Of course the table may have changed in subsequent game updates!

PS edb1815 says in tabletop rules if you rolled 2 after modifiers then you would double drop. He says not explictly in FoG 2 manual (as far as we can tell). Also, that is for losing combat badly or loss of a general and not explicitly for fallbacks.

Just to add to the post in the TT game fallback was not a reason to test cohesion. The FOGII manual does not mention fallbacks as causing a double drop. Going with the tt chart it does limit the double drops to losing combat badly, losing a general and friends routing nearby. I have not read through the patch notes to see if anything changed since the original manual on this issue.

We don't have any information on fallbacks causing double drops. If anyone knows or has seen the code then let us know. At the moment I am assuming that a roll of 2 will cause a double drop.

edb1815 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:58 pm Just to add to the post in the TT game fallback was not a reason to test cohesion.

Because it didn't exist in the TT game.

SLancaster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:10 pm We don't have any information on fallbacks causing double drops. If anyone knows or has seen the code then let us know. At the moment I am assuming that a roll of 2 will cause a double drop.

They can double drop.

As with other double drops, this is not caused by a roll of 2, but by a final score of 2 or less after applying modifiers.

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

Certainly cleared up regards the TT game, it has been a number of years. The double drop was not clear from my reading of the PC game manual. Thanks.