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Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:41 am
by Cunningcairn
How does a crossbow differ from a foot bow in the game? Where are it's POA's against different troop types listed in the rules?

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:40 am
by Athos1660
'Foot bow' ?
You mean 'football' ?

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:03 am
by cromlechi
Athos1660 wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:40 am 'Foot bow' ?
You mean 'football' ?
I am guessing he means the difference between a crossbow unit and an archer unit (bowmen) given that footballer units are not in the game. Not sure it had even been invented then.

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 am
by rbodleyscott
There aren't in the Manual because they did not exist in the base game.

The main difference is that (because of lower rate of fire) they are less effective than bow against infantry. This largely cancels out if the infantry are armoured, because bows are less effective against armoured troops but crossbows are not.

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:25 am
by Athos1660
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 am The main difference is that (because of lower rate of fire) they are less effective than bow against infantry. This largely cancels out if the infantry are armoured, because bows are less effective against armoured troops but crossbows are not.
Likewise I had the feeling that crossbows were quite effective against armoured cavalry (compared to bows).
cromlechi wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:03 am
Athos1660 wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:40 am 'Foot bow' ?
You mean 'football' ?
I am guessing he means the difference between a crossbow unit and an archer unit (bowmen) given that footballer units are not in the game. Not sure it had even been invented then.
My joke fell flat... :-)

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:06 am
by Cunningcairn
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 am There aren't in the Manual because they did not exist in the base game.

The main difference is that (because of lower rate of fire) they are less effective than bow against infantry. This largely cancels out if the infantry are armoured, because bows are less effective against armoured troops but crossbows are not.
Thanks. Is it possible to state in this thread what POA penalties are against different opponents?

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:38 am
by rbodleyscott
Cunningcairn wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:06 am
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 am There aren't in the Manual because they did not exist in the base game.

The main difference is that (because of lower rate of fire) they are less effective than bow against infantry. This largely cancels out if the infantry are armoured, because bows are less effective against armoured troops but crossbows are not.
Thanks. Is it possible to state in this thread what POA penalties are against different opponents?
vs Foot -125 (regardless of armour)
vs Mounted -50 (regardless of armour)
vs Artillery -125
vs Elephants +50

By contrast Bows are:

vs Foot:
vs Unprotected -50
vs Protected -75
vs Armoured -150
vs Fully Armoured -250

vs Mounted:
vs Unprotected 0
vs Protected -50
vs Armoured -100
vs Fully Armoured -150

vs Artillery: -50

vs Elephants: -50

Re: Crossbow vs Foot bow

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:02 pm
by Cunningcairn
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:38 am
Cunningcairn wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:06 am
rbodleyscott wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 am There aren't in the Manual because they did not exist in the base game.

The main difference is that (because of lower rate of fire) they are less effective than bow against infantry. This largely cancels out if the infantry are armoured, because bows are less effective against armoured troops but crossbows are not.
Thanks. Is it possible to state in this thread what POA penalties are against different opponents?
vs Foot -125 (regardless of armour)
vs Mounted -50 (regardless of armour)
vs Artillery -125
vs Elephants +50

By contrast Bows are:

vs Foot:
vs Unprotected -50
vs Protected -75
vs Armoured -150
vs Fully Armoured -250

vs Mounted:
vs Unprotected 0
vs Protected -50
vs Armoured -100
vs Fully Armoured -150

vs Artillery: -50

vs Elephants: -50
Thanks again!