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Is there any diplomatic option ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:13 pm
by Warsteiner
Hello everybody,

the prussian General Carl von Clausewitz said "Der Krieg ist eine bloße Fortsetzung der Politik unter Einbeziehung anderer Mittel”......"War is just the continuation of politics by inclusion of other means". Well, there is lots of war in CEAW, but I missing diplomatic options. I would like to explain why.

After Germany and Russia raided Poland in 1939, they signed a non-aggression treaty. This enabled Hitler to raid western Europe, and Stalin to set up his armed forces. Fortunately Hitler failed to raid the United Kingdom. It's my personal believe that this was Hitlers first and most aggravating military mistake. Accepting the evacuation of the British Expeditionary Force from Dunkerque, followed by the half-hearted deployment of Luftwaffe allcoation to win the Battle over Britian and in result the cancellation of Opertaion Sea Lion made the Unted Kingdom the biggest U.S. Aircraft carrier and the base for the allied Operation Neptune (D-Day). Hitler was constrained to leave lots of military equipment and supply in western Europe (and northern Africa) that could not avoid the annihilation of the German cities and industries by the RAF/ USAF and later on the allied invasion.......well, back to topic.

Where is the button to sign the non-aggression treaty with Russia ? :wink: I can't find any diplomatic option ? I don't want to end up in bunker, sitting next to a sheep dog and a blonde bavarian chick ? :mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:26 pm
by IainMcNeil
We thought about it but decided to focus on the military side of things for this game. We wanted the game to be polished and didn't feel we could do a diplomacy system justice. It's something we could look at for the future.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:01 am
by Warsteiner
Thanks for your reply Ian. What a pity, but it seems that you had to set your priorities for this great game. I'm new to it and if I understand it right you can only entry the war in a certain year or stage. Is there no "free campaign" available ? I.e. setup of 1939 but the human player (axis) is free to decide whether it makes more sense to secure the romanian oil or dutch cheese instead of attacking Poland ?

I'm sorry to ask so many questions but I couldn't find anything about this in the manual and in this board.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:51 am
by IainMcNeil
You are able to decalre war when you want so can control things, but you don't have diplomatic options to negotiate more complex things than a DoW. Some people invade Denamrk turn one, others dont. Some go for Norway - others leave it. Some like Spain etc. There are still a huge number of options.