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MVP7 wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 6:49 pm Personally I suspect the new big project could be 11th to 14th century medieval expansion. It would also make sense to offer such major era as an alternative starting module so that people interested mainly in medieval period wouldn't have to buy the Rise of Rome era first.

I wouldn't expect some massive final expansion with a ton of eras and areas. It has been unusually long since that last expansion but it seems like Panzer Corps 2 kept the art department busy for the end of 2019 and early 2020 so FoG2 dlc was probably on hold for a while.

MikeC_81 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:15 pm

MVP7 wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 6:49 pm Personally I suspect the new big project could be 11th to 14th century medieval expansion. It would also make sense to offer such major era as an alternative starting module so that people interested mainly in medieval period wouldn't have to buy the Rise of Rome era first.

I wouldn't expect some massive final expansion with a ton of eras and areas. It has been unusually long since that last expansion but it seems like Panzer Corps 2 kept the art department busy for the end of 2019 and early 2020 so FoG2 dlc was probably on hold for a while.

That personally would be a big draw to me especially if the ruleset could be mechanically refined to fit the medieval period better. I don't know how interesting medieval will be if all we are getting is another re-skin of existing units and new army lists that try to generate a new play experience by only mixing up the unit comps in the lists.

Gaznak wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:09 am By the way does anyone know how "keil" is supposed to be pronounced?

MikeC_81 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:15 pm That personally would be a big draw to me especially if the ruleset could be mechanically refined to fit the medieval period better. I don't know how interesting medieval will be if all we are getting is another re-skin of existing units and new army lists that try to generate a new play experience by only mixing up the unit comps in the lists.

Gaznak wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:09 am My interpretation of the snippets we have available in the code is that late medieval pikemen will be something akin to pike and shot keils, ie resistant to flank attacks. The nitty-gritty specifics of that are of course completely up in the air.

By the way does anyone know how "keil" is supposed to be pronounced?

Bladeheart wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:34 pm

Gaznak wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:09 am My interpretation of the snippets we have available in the code is that late medieval pikemen will be something akin to pike and shot keils, ie resistant to flank attacks. The nitty-gritty specifics of that are of course completely up in the air.

By the way does anyone know how "keil" is supposed to be pronounced?

Is there anyway of telling whether this code is new code for FoG2 or 'imported' code as it were from the original FoG?

// Was 200, but needed to be 300 to encourage knights to charge keils in the rear. However, this may make other types over-aggressive.

(...) the order in which strings were added is not necessarily the order in which they will appear in the game. Plans change.

All you can say from what you have found is that we do at some point intend to include the High and Late Medieval periods. But you knew that already.

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:43 am

MikeC_81 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:15 pm That personally would be a big draw to me especially if the ruleset could be mechanically refined to fit the medieval period better. I don't know how interesting medieval will be if all we are getting is another re-skin of existing units and new army lists that try to generate a new play experience by only mixing up the unit comps in the lists.

For each specific period, there are specific units with specific 'rules' (APs, PoAs, new capabilities...).

Regarding late Middle Age, we can expect quite a few novelties in terms of artillery and guns, infantry (keils...), lancers (knights...), weapons (more crossbows, long bows, maybe hand canons...), etc while, fortunately, the general framework of the ruleset will remain the same.

This way, as I see it, the FoG/P&S series provide an orignal experience for each period while it is easy to switch from one to another.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:24 am Which time period would you guys say the breaking point is between FoG2 and P&S when it comes to the game mechanics best suiting the time period in question?

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:54 am

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:24 am Which time period would you guys say the breaking point is between FoG2 and P&S when it comes to the game mechanics best suiting the time period in question?

Sorry I don't really understand your question.
The timeframe of P&S is 1494-ca.1700.
The general game mechanics of both games are identical, except some refinements made during FoG2 development (ZoC2, Flank rules...), specific units of each period (dragoons...) and their specific features (weapons, capabilities...).
And these mechanics work very well in every period.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:11 am

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:54 am

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:24 am Which time period would you guys say the breaking point is between FoG2 and P&S when it comes to the game mechanics best suiting the time period in question?

Sorry I don't really understand your question.
The timeframe of P&S is 1494-ca.1700.
The general game mechanics of both games are identical, except some refinements made during FoG2 development (ZoC2, Flank rules...), specific units of each period (dragoons...) and their specific features (weapons, capabilities...).
And these mechanics work very well in every period.

No worries, you answered it. Thanks! (The background to my question is that I'm not at all familiar with P&S and if and then how it differs from FoG2 mechanically. But now I know that it doesn't.)

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:24 am

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:43 am

MikeC_81 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:15 pm That personally would be a big draw to me especially if the ruleset could be mechanically refined to fit the medieval period better. I don't know how interesting medieval will be if all we are getting is another re-skin of existing units and new army lists that try to generate a new play experience by only mixing up the unit comps in the lists.

For each specific period, there are specific units with specific 'rules' (APs, PoAs, new capabilities...).

Regarding late Middle Age, we can expect quite a few novelties in terms of artillery and guns, infantry (keils...), lancers (knights...), weapons (more crossbows, long bows, maybe hand canons...), etc while, fortunately, the general framework of the ruleset will remain the same.

This way, as I see it, the FoG/P&S series provide an orignal experience for each period while it is easy to switch from one to another.

Which time period would you guys say the breaking point is between FoG2 and P&S when it comes to the game mechanics best suiting the time period in question?