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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:25 pm
by ars_belli
A little more grousing about the current AoW title on The Miniatures Page:
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=105943
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:51 pm
by rbodleyscott
No matter, "Art of War" is not the final title.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:07 pm
by ars_belli
rbodleyscott wrote:No matter, "Art of War" is not the final title.
Ahhh... glad to hear it!
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:42 pm
by jre
Maybe I read too much Ceram in my youth, but what about: "Generals, soldiers and warriors: ancient warfare."
Alternately,
Arete. I like either very short or very long titles.
Jos?©
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:15 am
by youngr
How about 'Champions of War'?
Richard
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:23 am
by shall
Or if you are at Salute this weekend...............you will see what the title is at the Osprey stand....
Si
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:49 pm
by bryan
shall wrote:Or if you are at Salute this weekend...............you will see what the title is at the Osprey stand....
Si
Why be coy? Richard already spilled the beans over in the basing thread... Field of Glory.
Sounds good.
Do I get a runner-up prize for suggesting field of battle and age of glory?
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:06 pm
by shall
Ah missed that. Yes indeed it is
"Field of Glory" as publicised by Osprey this weekend at Salute along with some graphics, diags and the front cover.
2 half prizes I suppose - 2 half pints of beer?
Si
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:02 pm
by bryan
shall wrote:Ah missed that. Yes indeed it is
"Field of Glory" as publicised by Osprey this weekend at Salute along with some graphics, diags and the front cover.
2 half prizes I suppose - 2 half pints of beer?
Si
Do I have to drink them seperately? One day I'll make it to the IWF tournament(when FoG is the game played!) and I'll be happy to claim my prize.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:15 pm
by seleucus
Hi Guys
I think Art Of War is a great name for the rules. I believe the title in ENGLISH will appeal to a greater audience and will help new gamers to find the rules. The title " Art Of War" also allows other era's to identify with the same tiltle without taking the uniqueness or relevance of each of the periods below ie
Art Of War - Ancient and Medievil
Art Of War - Rennaisance
Art Of War - Napoleonics
Art Of War - WW2
Art Of War - Ultra Moderns
One title, many periods after all Wargames is the Art of encountering the enemy. I believe a good general should and would do well in any period . Well anyway this is my 5c worth
Ed
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:16 am
by Redpossum
Field of Glory?
Sorry, but most Americans are going to immediately think of the War Between the States when they read that title.
Poor choice in my not-so-humble opinion, very poor.
It's just...wrong. It doesn't evoke at all the right mental images.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:42 am
by malekithau
"field of Glory" too horse and musket for my liking. I've got to say it's not right for this period.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:16 am
by montezuma
Fields of Glory, oh dear, not very evocative of the period. As someone has said, more American Civil War than anything else. I can understand not going with faux Latin or Greek as it could imply a follow on from DBM/DBA and could get confused with DBMM. But Fields of Glory just doesn't cut it.
Besides anything else there is nothing glorious about war, people get killed, no glory in that.
Art of War was a good working title and would be a good final title, it just about sums it all up. is there really a need to change it ?
regards
Paul
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:23 am
by IainMcNeil
The main problem with Art of War was the confusion with other similar products (books, DVD's, games etc). Say you had heard someone down the club playing the rules and wanted to check out more information on the Internet. If you do a search in Google for Art of War you get millions of hits and are unlikely to be able to find the appropriate link. Do the same for Field of Glory and once the name starts to filter through it will be much easier to find what you are looking for.
You have no idea how long and hard this was deliberated over. We have been through literally hundreds of names combined in thousands of ways over a period of months.
The title is never going to appeal to everyone initially, but give it a chance - it will grow on you
PS it is Field of Glory, not Fields of Glory. Dropping the "s" takes away the musket feel and makes it fit the ancient and medieval era for me.
Oh yes, we had just as much fun with the army list books and there are loads of those!
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:38 pm
by ars_belli
"Field of Glory" works just fine for me, and it also nicely captures the "FoG" of war!
I may translate the title to "Campus Gloriae" or "Acies Gloriae" in my own mind, though.
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:28 pm
by babyshark
Field of Glory? FoG? I can kinda dig it. I liked AoW a little better, but FoG will do nicely.
And the title is adaptable for when the rules are ported to other time periods: Field of Gas-attack (for the WWI rules), France or Germany (for the Franco-Prussian war edition), Field o' Goblins (for the fantasy rules). I leave the other eras unnamed as an exercise for the student.
Marc
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:42 pm
by vsolfronk
Field of Gore for the horror crowd (My shoggoth can beat your zombies any day!), or for the global warming crowd.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:19 pm
by vsolfronk
Field of Gloire for Napoleonic rules?
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:06 am
by Redpossum
Hmmph, I still don't like it.
Definitely evokes images of the 18th-19th century.
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:24 am
by malekithau
I'm not sold on the title but I'm definitely sold on the rules and that's what really matters, I guess.