Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:38 pm
Back up on turn 52, your armour in Russia...a couple of them have little white circular arrows on them. What are those?
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:15 pm
Those indicate unit swap. If you select a unit you can swap positions to any adjacent units. This is a good way to get a depleted unit at the front out of harms way without leaving hole at the front. You only lose one entrenchment level by swapping units so this is better than reshuffling the front line to get the weak ones out.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:23 pm
dang...this thing keeps getting more interesting all the time.....curse you!!! 
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:17 am
Turn 54 - Battle for attrition continues in the east! Gomel captured!
I expected that my 5 step SS Panzer Corps would be destroyed, but somehow Leridano managed to also destroy the other 7 step ARM. Nevertheless, I continues with my offensive and achieve to take Gomel and expand the bridgehead in the center of the front.
In the south the Wehrmacht destroys several Soviet units near Rostov and make good progress, but a counterattack is expected:
I also managed to damage the Soviet FTRs and a TAC with my FTR, so that they will have to be repaired, withdrawn or be destroyed next turn.
In the north I got extremely bad result my offensive slows down:
The air battles over western europe continue. RAF and USAF took heavy losses, but they nevertheless bring my PP income slowly down. There is also some SUB action against a Regia Marina BB in the MED. The British took Tripoli. In the Atlantic the German SUBs destroy another Soviet convoy.
I expected that my 5 step SS Panzer Corps would be destroyed, but somehow Leridano managed to also destroy the other 7 step ARM. Nevertheless, I continues with my offensive and achieve to take Gomel and expand the bridgehead in the center of the front.
In the south the Wehrmacht destroys several Soviet units near Rostov and make good progress, but a counterattack is expected:
I also managed to damage the Soviet FTRs and a TAC with my FTR, so that they will have to be repaired, withdrawn or be destroyed next turn.
In the north I got extremely bad result my offensive slows down:
The air battles over western europe continue. RAF and USAF took heavy losses, but they nevertheless bring my PP income slowly down. There is also some SUB action against a Regia Marina BB in the MED. The British took Tripoli. In the Atlantic the German SUBs destroy another Soviet convoy.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:06 pm
Turn 55 - Soviets take heavy losses as Axis offensive continues!
The slugfest continues. I lost 2 INF last turn, but this turn was extremely successful for the Axis, as I destroyed 3-4 MECH and 1-2 INF (most of them damaged). Next turn I will be perhaps able to concentrate on Rostov:
The Soviet offensive potential seems more or less depleted. I only count 3 remaining MECHs at the front, no Armor (it seems Leridano did not built any ARM at all, but still a lot of INF and GAR remain). Soviet losses nearly reach 7 Million. German losses are about 2.5 Million, but manpower ist still strong (90 %).
I even got some success in the north:
Only problem is that time is running out. I will have 2-3 turns of fair weather and then my offensive will stop. I will have to get lucky to capture Rostov and Kharkov. Nevertheless I'm quite optimistic that it will be difficult for Leridano to successfully launch a mighty winter offensive.
In France I finally attack the British paras:
They will be destroyed next turn. The Atlantic Wall was also expanded! Still no sign of any offensive action in the Med. A British SUB attacked a Regia Marin BB in port, but nothing else seems to be happening there. This is good, as a third front would be really a problem, especially sustaining it with air forces.
The slugfest continues. I lost 2 INF last turn, but this turn was extremely successful for the Axis, as I destroyed 3-4 MECH and 1-2 INF (most of them damaged). Next turn I will be perhaps able to concentrate on Rostov:
The Soviet offensive potential seems more or less depleted. I only count 3 remaining MECHs at the front, no Armor (it seems Leridano did not built any ARM at all, but still a lot of INF and GAR remain). Soviet losses nearly reach 7 Million. German losses are about 2.5 Million, but manpower ist still strong (90 %).
I even got some success in the north:
Only problem is that time is running out. I will have 2-3 turns of fair weather and then my offensive will stop. I will have to get lucky to capture Rostov and Kharkov. Nevertheless I'm quite optimistic that it will be difficult for Leridano to successfully launch a mighty winter offensive.
In France I finally attack the British paras:
They will be destroyed next turn. The Atlantic Wall was also expanded! Still no sign of any offensive action in the Med. A British SUB attacked a Regia Marin BB in port, but nothing else seems to be happening there. This is good, as a third front would be really a problem, especially sustaining it with air forces.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:13 pm
You know, if the British don't have Strategic Operations Lv. 5 yet (and they probably don't), then you can station your fighters by Berlin. The Ruhr will be at the edge of their range and the RAF fighters won't be able to escort their Strats. Of course, this means you leave Paris, Hague, and Lille open to bombardment, but ask yourself if the PPs you are getting from those three sources cover the expenses you are paying in repairs to your fighters. Remember that you only get half the posted PP value from conquered cities.
Of course, you may just want to engage the RAF because you will probably get better results. That's fine too. Just another option.
Of course, you may just want to engage the RAF because you will probably get better results. That's fine too. Just another option.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:33 pm
The other side of the coin is that having an air unit in Ruhr, Essen and the oil hex restricts the Allies to 1 attack per turn to those hexes instead of 2 per turn. That saves a fair bit of production from those native German sources(no halving for these like you said for the captured cities). Maybe that's his goal at this point.joerock22 wrote:You know, if the British don't have Strategic Operations Lv. 5 yet (and they probably don't), then you can station your fighters by Berlin. The Ruhr will be at the edge of their range and the RAF fighters won't be able to escort their Strats.
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:08 am
problem with having air units in resources so far to the west is that the Allies can instead target your airbases. Hitting your fighter with 3 hits per turn bleeds the German economy more than e. g. 5 bomber hits on Ruhr. You can have the fighter on sentry, but it won't help against airbase attacks.
So I usually try to keep my fighters outside airbase attacks so they can only be hurt when the fighters fly intercept missions. This way I can put them on sentry and rest when they need repairs.
It doesn't matter for the Allies HOW they inflict damage upon the Germans in the west as long as they do something. You need to try to go after the resources, but if that is harder you instead go after the escorts. If the Germans station good land units in France you use tac bombers to harass them. The point is to force the Germans to spend PP's, oil and manpower every turn in the west. That means the Russians have a slightly better chance to survive.
So I usually try to keep my fighters outside airbase attacks so they can only be hurt when the fighters fly intercept missions. This way I can put them on sentry and rest when they need repairs.
It doesn't matter for the Allies HOW they inflict damage upon the Germans in the west as long as they do something. You need to try to go after the resources, but if that is harder you instead go after the escorts. If the Germans station good land units in France you use tac bombers to harass them. The point is to force the Germans to spend PP's, oil and manpower every turn in the west. That means the Russians have a slightly better chance to survive.
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:30 am
Yes, makes all perfect sense. But the assumption was(from joerock's post) that the Allies would not have the range to reach the resource hexes or the airbases in those hexes at this point of the war with FTRs. You could switch the the Axis air units in those hexes to sentry, hence limit the damage to big PP producing hexes(by limiting the attacks to 1 per turn) AND deny the possibility of step losses and the repair cost to those air units from direct strikes by FTRs or from interception missions. Granted, I didn't spell out my argument too clearly in my post.
_augustus_
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:29 pm
Turn 56 - Axis offensive threatens Rostov as heavy fighting continues!
In the south I destroy more Soviet units and only one MECH remains at the frontline. All other units are GAR or INF.
I hope I will capture Rostov next turn, as it is the last sure fair weather turn!
Fighting in the sector of Army Group Center is slowing down:
In the north Army Group North is still fighting for the gateway to northern Russia:
In the skies above France the battle continues. I also attack some convoys in the Atlantic.
In the south I destroy more Soviet units and only one MECH remains at the frontline. All other units are GAR or INF.
I hope I will capture Rostov next turn, as it is the last sure fair weather turn!
Fighting in the sector of Army Group Center is slowing down:
In the north Army Group North is still fighting for the gateway to northern Russia:
In the skies above France the battle continues. I also attack some convoys in the Atlantic.
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:48 pm
Turn 57 - Axis capture Rostov and Petrozavodosk! Soviet offensive potential depleted! Naval action in the Med!
Finally Army Group North is successful and captures Petrozavodosk:
Soviet HQ is isolated, but the most important thing is that these units are now free for other operations. I could even threaten Moscow from the north should the weather stay fair for more then one turn.
Army Group Center goes into defensive positions and I repair most units as good as I can:
A soviet para jumped into my air bases to attack a German TAC last turn, but I destroyed it quickly.
Army Group South captures Rostov and destroys the last remaining Soviet MECH on the front:
The Red Army survives, but it seems that it is in bad shape as it seems to consist only of INF and GAR. Even the air force retreated from the front. I hope there is no reserve force waiting for the severe winter to strike! I also begin to retreat my airforce to the west as the battle in the skies over France continues:
The DD of the Regia Marina runs into a 8 step SUB for 1:3 losses:
I counterattack with my BB from the port for 2:2 damage, but both the DD and BB are quite damaged. It will be interesting to see if the RN makes a sortie:
This is what I'm wondering the last few turns. Leridano does not seem to use the US navy and the RN much. There is absolutely not SUB hunting action in the Atlantic. I destroyed every Soviet and southern convoy the last few turns, without any interference of the Allies. There is also no sign of any ground operations either by the US or the Brits. I wonder where Leridano will make his move in the West. Perhaps he will go for a 1943 D-Day and is assembling a big invasion force?
Finally Army Group North is successful and captures Petrozavodosk:
Soviet HQ is isolated, but the most important thing is that these units are now free for other operations. I could even threaten Moscow from the north should the weather stay fair for more then one turn.
Army Group Center goes into defensive positions and I repair most units as good as I can:
A soviet para jumped into my air bases to attack a German TAC last turn, but I destroyed it quickly.
Army Group South captures Rostov and destroys the last remaining Soviet MECH on the front:
The Red Army survives, but it seems that it is in bad shape as it seems to consist only of INF and GAR. Even the air force retreated from the front. I hope there is no reserve force waiting for the severe winter to strike! I also begin to retreat my airforce to the west as the battle in the skies over France continues:
The DD of the Regia Marina runs into a 8 step SUB for 1:3 losses:
I counterattack with my BB from the port for 2:2 damage, but both the DD and BB are quite damaged. It will be interesting to see if the RN makes a sortie:
This is what I'm wondering the last few turns. Leridano does not seem to use the US navy and the RN much. There is absolutely not SUB hunting action in the Atlantic. I destroyed every Soviet and southern convoy the last few turns, without any interference of the Allies. There is also no sign of any ground operations either by the US or the Brits. I wonder where Leridano will make his move in the West. Perhaps he will go for a 1943 D-Day and is assembling a big invasion force?
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:19 am
Turn 58 and 59 - Winter and mud hits the eastern front!
I was not lucky with the weather and I got winter in October. Therefore all offensive action was stopped in the east and moved into defensive positions. As it was mud in central Europe nothing interesting happened there as well. Leridano did a small scale offensive near Rostov finishing off a 2 step INF by iar and another exposed German INF. On the next turn (first November turn) the weather is mud and I prepare my defenses in the east:
I will soon get another level in fixed defense for the German INF, which will greatly help to stop the Soviets. Most of my airforce is now either on the west or waiting outside the severe winter weather zone.
I also spot some interesing moves in the Med near Tripoli:
I wonder what Leridano is planning? Will he try to attack Vichy France. This would give more PP and I think it would only be a smart move he goes for an invasion of southern France. If he attacks Tunesia and North Africa, I will be able to reinforce southern France quickly.
I was not lucky with the weather and I got winter in October. Therefore all offensive action was stopped in the east and moved into defensive positions. As it was mud in central Europe nothing interesting happened there as well. Leridano did a small scale offensive near Rostov finishing off a 2 step INF by iar and another exposed German INF. On the next turn (first November turn) the weather is mud and I prepare my defenses in the east:
I will soon get another level in fixed defense for the German INF, which will greatly help to stop the Soviets. Most of my airforce is now either on the west or waiting outside the severe winter weather zone.
I also spot some interesing moves in the Med near Tripoli:
I wonder what Leridano is planning? Will he try to attack Vichy France. This would give more PP and I think it would only be a smart move he goes for an invasion of southern France. If he attacks Tunesia and North Africa, I will be able to reinforce southern France quickly.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:25 am
Turn 60 - 62 - Allied invasion force spotted! Severe winter hits the east!
Turn 60 - 61 was uneventful, but I got some good new techs! Fixed defense level 3 will help me greatly on the eastern front.
At the end of turn 61 I also spotted an Allied invasion force:
At the end of this turn severe winter hits the eastern front and the Soviets launch several attacks managing to cut off a German MECH in Rostov. Nevertheless I counterattack with my Panzers and destroy three Soviet INF:
The Soviet airforce is still in bad shape and the Red Army is missing good offensive units, so I'm quite optimistic to hold my position.
Only skirmishes in the sector of Army Group Center:
The German INF near Gomel is however under heavy pressure.
In the sector of Army Group North I move most units out as there is nothing to be gained there. The Soviet HQ also escaped:
The air battles over France stopped, which gave me some breath and much needed repair on my air force could be done. Nevertheless, I'm still needing all my PPs for repairs and I will need quickly some more German ground units to counter the invasion force and to reinforce the east. However, manpower is still around 90 % for the Germans and 85 % for the Italians. I also move air units to Italy and move into striking positions with the Regia Marina
The losses at the beginning of 1943:
German Panzer losses are high, but Infantry losses are low. Soviet Infantry losses are high. The Soviets could even be below 75%.
Turn 60 - 61 was uneventful, but I got some good new techs! Fixed defense level 3 will help me greatly on the eastern front.
At the end of turn 61 I also spotted an Allied invasion force:
At the end of this turn severe winter hits the eastern front and the Soviets launch several attacks managing to cut off a German MECH in Rostov. Nevertheless I counterattack with my Panzers and destroy three Soviet INF:
The Soviet airforce is still in bad shape and the Red Army is missing good offensive units, so I'm quite optimistic to hold my position.
Only skirmishes in the sector of Army Group Center:
The German INF near Gomel is however under heavy pressure.
In the sector of Army Group North I move most units out as there is nothing to be gained there. The Soviet HQ also escaped:
The air battles over France stopped, which gave me some breath and much needed repair on my air force could be done. Nevertheless, I'm still needing all my PPs for repairs and I will need quickly some more German ground units to counter the invasion force and to reinforce the east. However, manpower is still around 90 % for the Germans and 85 % for the Italians. I also move air units to Italy and move into striking positions with the Regia Marina
The losses at the beginning of 1943:
German Panzer losses are high, but Infantry losses are low. Soviet Infantry losses are high. The Soviets could even be below 75%.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:43 pm
Turn 63 - Skirmishes on the eastern! Allied bombing campaign resumed!
Not much happened thist turn. I got organisation level 2 with the Italians which will further bolster my defense. In the east I destroy a Soviet Inf, but lost 2 INF through attacks last turn:
In the south the Finnish FTR inflict some losses on the Soviet air force:
In the west the strategic bombing is resumed:
I began producing a reserve force for the expected Allied attack. A German MECH and Italian Para will be ready in two turns.
Not much happened thist turn. I got organisation level 2 with the Italians which will further bolster my defense. In the east I destroy a Soviet Inf, but lost 2 INF through attacks last turn:
In the south the Finnish FTR inflict some losses on the Soviet air force:
In the west the strategic bombing is resumed:
I began producing a reserve force for the expected Allied attack. A German MECH and Italian Para will be ready in two turns.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:06 am
Turn 64 - Allies launch Operation Torch! Free French Forces join the Allies!
Finally some action in the Med. US and British forces attack North Africa:
I do not understand what Leridano tries to achieve with this invasion. It will give me Extra-PP from southern France for a long time. Furthermore, it will delay an invasion of Italy or France. He gets the Free French and better airbases for attacking Italy or France, but that is all.
Allies continue with strategic bombing of Essen an bring it down to 2 production. In the east the Red Army continues their winter offensive and destroy a Finnish Corps railed last turn to the east. The Red Army has now 4 MECHs in the south. In the Atlantic I destroy a Soviet convoy. Also some SUB action against Free French and an Allied transport. German STR bombs an Allied BB for 2 steps.
Finally some action in the Med. US and British forces attack North Africa:
I do not understand what Leridano tries to achieve with this invasion. It will give me Extra-PP from southern France for a long time. Furthermore, it will delay an invasion of Italy or France. He gets the Free French and better airbases for attacking Italy or France, but that is all.
Allies continue with strategic bombing of Essen an bring it down to 2 production. In the east the Red Army continues their winter offensive and destroy a Finnish Corps railed last turn to the east. The Red Army has now 4 MECHs in the south. In the Atlantic I destroy a Soviet convoy. Also some SUB action against Free French and an Allied transport. German STR bombs an Allied BB for 2 steps.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:21 am
I've been wondering how you were able to save that much oil! It's impressive...
It will allow you to hit the Russians again in 1943, something I think you must do in order reduce his strength, before you retreat. Maybe there is a chance to cut off many units with a pincer attack towards Kharkov?
It will allow you to hit the Russians again in 1943, something I think you must do in order reduce his strength, before you retreat. Maybe there is a chance to cut off many units with a pincer attack towards Kharkov?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:20 am
Hi.eisenkopf wrote:I've been wondering how you were able to save that much oil! It's impressive...
It will allow you to hit the Russians again in 1943, something I think you must do in order reduce his strength, before you retreat. Maybe there is a chance to cut off many units with a pincer attack towards Kharkov?
I was thinking abaut the same thing, but there is one more question. Where are your tactical bombers? I'm afraid that three panzer corps are not enough to brake soviet line. I can see only three armour and three german mech corps at all front line. Maybe you should think about building some units that can use this oil... Even if you pull back than you will have chance to caunter attack any soviet brakethru.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:45 am
I got so much oil because of a rule change. Damaged units consume less oil as full stength oil consuming units. Up to the year 1941 I also saved oil as much as possible, but this would not have been even necessary! As this problem occured in other playtests as well, the developer team changed this again in the latest patches.Suprass wrote:Hi.eisenkopf wrote:I've been wondering how you were able to save that much oil! It's impressive...
It will allow you to hit the Russians again in 1943, something I think you must do in order reduce his strength, before you retreat. Maybe there is a chance to cut off many units with a pincer attack towards Kharkov?
I was thinking abaut the same thing, but there is one more question. Where are your tactical bombers? I'm afraid that three panzer corps are not enough to brake soviet line. I can see only three armour and three german mech corps at all front line. Maybe you should think about building some units that can use this oil... Even if you pull back than you will have chance to caunter attack any soviet brakethru.
My German TACs are in Italy, as I expected the Allies to land there in the winter, but they did Torch instead. I moved all my airforce from the eastern front before the severe winter to avoid the morale loss. Furthermore, the Luftwaffe gets heavy penalties in winter and the Soviet airforce not. I will transfer my airforce back to eastern front soon.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:21 pm
Ok.zechi wrote:I got so much oil because of a rule change. Damaged units consume less oil as full stength oil consuming units. Up to the year 1941 I also saved oil as much as possible, but this would not have been even necessary! As this problem occured in other playtests as well, the developer team changed this again in the latest patches.Suprass wrote:Hi.eisenkopf wrote:I've been wondering how you were able to save that much oil! It's impressive...
It will allow you to hit the Russians again in 1943, something I think you must do in order reduce his strength, before you retreat. Maybe there is a chance to cut off many units with a pincer attack towards Kharkov?
I was thinking abaut the same thing, but there is one more question. Where are your tactical bombers? I'm afraid that three panzer corps are not enough to brake soviet line. I can see only three armour and three german mech corps at all front line. Maybe you should think about building some units that can use this oil... Even if you pull back than you will have chance to caunter attack any soviet brakethru.
My German TACs are in Italy, as I expected the Allies to land there in the winter, but they did Torch instead. I moved all my airforce from the eastern front before the severe winter to avoid the morale loss. Furthermore, the Luftwaffe gets heavy penalties in winter and the Soviet airforce not. I will transfer my airforce back to eastern front soon.
But you have to be carefull. This year can be treacherous. If something goes wrong witch any offensiv move at eastern front you can be expoused for counter attack and soviets can be able to finish damaged units. Their tech level now can give them chance to fight.
And what abaut british troops? Do you think that they had enough time and pp's to start prepareing early invasion of France? I see that there was half year of quiet in Africa. They lost points for bombing the Reich but if you focus all your attention on Soviet and Itally they can catch some ground. They are at least able to pressure your pp's.
I know that you know all this as well but be carefull. It will be most important time- first half of '43. Choose cautiously and may the force be witch your soldiers.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:22 pm
The biggest impact was that we reduced oil for air and tanks at a couple of Tech levels. It turned out that that was too much. We belive that is to blame, and not using reduced oil for partial strength units, for the large axis oil stockpiles that we all were seeing. So, we're trying the following for the current beta version (GSv2.00z3):zechi wrote:.eisenkopf wrote:I've been wondering how you were able to save that much oil! It's impressive...
It will allow you to hit the Russians again in 1943, something I think you must do in order reduce his strength, before you retreat. Maybe there is a chance to cut off many units with a pincer attack towards Kharkov?
I got so much oil because of a rule change. Damaged units consume less oil as full stength oil consuming units. Up to the year 1941 I also saved oil as much as possible, but this would not have been even necessary! As this problem occured in other playtests as well, the developer team changed this again in the latest patches.
7. Implemented +1 oil to the following techs:
a. Infantry. Artillery, Remove +1 oil at tech 4. Mech
b. Armor.
i. Armor, Added +1 oil at tech 1: Means Germany can only benefit 2 oil in France, but not in Russia (3 oil at start of Barbarossa)
ii. Add +1 oil at tech 4: Mech and armor
iii. Tank Destroyers: Removed +1 oil at tech 4.
iv. Then all +1 oil to armor is linked to armor when survivability increases by 1.
v. Start armor oil is: 2. Max at armor tech 6 will be: 6
vi. Mech will start at oil 1 and increase to oil 2 at armor tech 4.
c. Air:
i. Dogfight: Remove +1 oil at tech for fighter and CV
ii. Close air: Remove +1 oil at tech 4 for tac bomber and CV
iii. Strategic operations:
1. Remove +1 oil at tech 2 for strat bomber
2. Remove +1 oil at tech 6 for fighter, tac bomber and strat bomber
3. Add +1 oil at tech 1 for fighter, tac bomber, strat bomber
4. Add +1 oil at tech 3 for tac bomber, strat bomber, CV
5. Add +1 oil at tech 5 for fighter, tac bomber, strat bomber, CV
iv. Start tech oil:
1. Fighter: 2
2. Tac bomber: 3
3. Strat bomber: 4
4. CV: 3
v. Oil at strategic operations tech 5:
1. Fighter: 4
2. Tac bomber: 6
3. Strat bomber: 7
4. CV: 5
d. Adding +1 oil to tech 1, 3 and 5 is best because that is the time the air units get plus attack range (+3, +2, +2). It's logical that the air units would burn more oil if they have a longer attack range. This means increased oil consumption is linked to air range for air units and survivability for armor and mech